let's find out more about this i'm now joined by jacob gould a senior fellow at the london based institute for strategic dialogue who researches extremism magicka good to have you here with us by some estimates of germany is home to the largest cuarón a community outside the english speaking world why is that and how did we get here . so for over 3 years now different figures on the german farai that have been talking about your own conspiracy theories but it started off quite small we've been at the institute for strategic dialogue we've been monitoring this phenomenon over a few years but really it earlier this year after the introduction of the lockdown measures into 2 months after that membership really grow in this edition coincided with a planned nato maneuver that was called off and that by q and on was interpreted. definite at the end demick was intact until america to essentially safe didn't it nato from liberating germany and germany from democracy so enabled to draw on sort of like previous next existing conspiracy theories and enemies of to fall arrived to really match this int