. >> let's back up jacob moody va indicated in march of 2014 it's been over a year when was the nomination committee established? >> can i have him help me with some of the dates? >> mr. mic kra can you tell me when is the nomination established? >> established fall of 2014. >> okay. >> early fall and held a couple of meetings, regarding the criteria. what requests we will ask in the interviews what the ic is looking for held interviews in the winter and december throughout january. made the recommendations this past ic meeting it was -- they did not get agreement now we're back in the process of making new criteria and searching for a 7th member >> that means there was was a vote actually taken for to accept a criteria for the 7th member >> yes >> so it failed because there wasn't a majority >> correct >> was there say discussion on why there is discrepancy used? >> there was. there was a matrix for each candidate what their strengths and weaknesses were they were reviewed by the entire ic when it came to a vote they did not have the majority to move forward >> fair enough i will say betw