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jacob soboroff, what do you have? >> on the way to maine, i ran into a former senator gordon humphrey. he's a part of this movement. senator humphrey, the colorado delegation has vacated their seats and walked out. what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's more than justified. i sought to be recognized to raise a point of parliamentary inquiry and was immediately drowned out by people i would refer to as brown shirts around in my surroundings. >> as a member, a former member of the u.s. senate, is this how this procedure is supposed to work? we're being governed by the rules of the house of representatives. is this fair? is this right? >> well, you just saw the motion -- second most important item of business rushed through in a split second with no opportunity for debate. no opportunity for questions. no opportunity for points of order. and no roll call vote, although, nine states under the rules, requested a roll call vote and demanded a roll call vote and should have been accorded that. pretty shocking and sham
jacob soboroff, what do you have? >> on the way to maine, i ran into a former senator gordon humphrey. he's a part of this movement. senator humphrey, the colorado delegation has vacated their seats and walked out. what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's more than justified. i sought to be recognized to raise a point of parliamentary inquiry and was immediately drowned out by people i would refer to as brown shirts around in my surroundings. >> as a member, a former...
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i know jacob soboroff is down on the floor. jacob, what can you tell us? >> a really interesting feeling down here on the floor as everyone listens to alicia keys. it was almost the feeling during the speech, i was standing between the illinois and arkansas delegations over there, two places that definitely got smo shoutouts from bill clinton, it almost had a feel they were listening to an old friend, a feeling of familiarity to it. >> all right, jacob, thank you. >> let's go back -- >> this is my 24th convention. i don't ever remember at the end of an evening like this, i just hated it. they're obviously all jacked up. this is why they're here. >> it's the audience at home that clearly the campaign cares about. >> that's what you have to be thinking about. and also looking forward, these debates are going to be the super bowl of international politics. when the two of them go head to head without an audience to cheer them on or a band playing in the background. >> that is high expectation. let us go back to the stage now.
i know jacob soboroff is down on the floor. jacob, what can you tell us? >> a really interesting feeling down here on the floor as everyone listens to alicia keys. it was almost the feeling during the speech, i was standing between the illinois and arkansas delegations over there, two places that definitely got smo shoutouts from bill clinton, it almost had a feel they were listening to an old friend, a feeling of familiarity to it. >> all right, jacob, thank you. >> let's go...
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jacob soboroff standing by in the arkansas delegation. jacob? >> brian, i am here with state senator joyce elliott, vice-chair of the arkansas democratic party. she said she has known secretary clinton 30 years exactly. tell me the story of how you met. >> well, she had come to arkansas with bill clinton. i was a school teacher. something i wanted to do all my life. but i had the misfortune of growing up in schools in arkansas in the south that were segregated and schools that were not as good as they should have been. so that was the passion for me. it was really wonderful for me that this person who had come from some place else, that many people questioned in some ways, because education was something i knew we needed to improve, it was grit eat to have somebody w was an ally. interestingly, we were pregnant with our children about the same time and she was fighting for what was best for her child and i was thinking the same way, as a teacher of 30 years, i have a child who is coming along but i
jacob soboroff standing by in the arkansas delegation. jacob? >> brian, i am here with state senator joyce elliott, vice-chair of the arkansas democratic party. she said she has known secretary clinton 30 years exactly. tell me the story of how you met. >> well, she had come to arkansas with bill clinton. i was a school teacher. something i wanted to do all my life. but i had the misfortune of growing up in schools in arkansas in the south that were segregated and schools that were...
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instead let's go to jacob soboroff. jacob soboroff also on the floor. he is with the vermont delegation. look, vermont, bernie sanders' home state. he got almost 90% of the vote there when he ran in that primary. that is a very pro-sanders delegation. jacob, what kind of reaction are we expecting from those sanders delegates when this convention gets under way? >> that is what we are going to be watching very closely up here, steve. kelly said there are 4700 delegates here. think about this, this is twice as many almost as were at the republican national convention. so when we talk about the floor, that's why it extends up here into essentially what is the rafters. we're not down on the floor at all. i'm here with tim german, the vice chairman of the delegation from vermont. big news today, debbie wasserman schultz is not going to be gaveling in. is that something that you all i would imagine are happy with. i don't want to put words in your mouth, you tell me. >> i don't like the word "happy" but i think it was time and it's a good move for the party.
instead let's go to jacob soboroff. jacob soboroff also on the floor. he is with the vermont delegation. look, vermont, bernie sanders' home state. he got almost 90% of the vote there when he ran in that primary. that is a very pro-sanders delegation. jacob, what kind of reaction are we expecting from those sanders delegates when this convention gets under way? >> that is what we are going to be watching very closely up here, steve. kelly said there are 4700 delegates here. think about...
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back to you. >> jacob soboroff, thanks so much.delphia, home to the nation's first daily newspaper. did you know that? published more than 230 years ago. stay with us. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. sorry ma'am. no burning here. find out how american express ugh. heartburn.ces try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. new alka seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. squuuuack, let's feed him let's feto the sharks!sharks! yay! and take all of his gold! and take all of his gold! ya! and hide it from the crew! ya...? squuuuack, they're all morons anyway! i never said that. they all smell bad too. no! you all smell wonderful! i smell bad! if you're a parrot, you repeat thing
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jacob soboroff joins me for more on that. jacob, any sign there will be more dissent. >> kate, hallie jackson asked what will the delegates unbound movement do? i happen to be standing next to the right person to ask that question, this is kendall unruh, the leader of the walkout of the colorado delegates yesterday and everybody, all eyes are on the colorado delegates and other delegations after yesterday's opposition to the roll call by the republican party. kendall, everybody is looking at you guys, what are you going to do? >> well, colorado is okay because we have pledged to ted cruz and our daeelegation will fair. but we need to watch iowa and utah where there needs to be an accurate vote count reflected or there will be challenges and that includes a delegate standing up, taking the microphone if the vote tally has been cast and challenging with precise language so they're not ruled out of order the fact that it doesn't reflect the votes that were cast. that's the only way we can truly legitimately reflect the honesty an
jacob soboroff joins me for more on that. jacob, any sign there will be more dissent. >> kate, hallie jackson asked what will the delegates unbound movement do? i happen to be standing next to the right person to ask that question, this is kendall unruh, the leader of the walkout of the colorado delegates yesterday and everybody, all eyes are on the colorado delegates and other delegations after yesterday's opposition to the roll call by the republican party. kendall, everybody is looking...
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jacob soboroff in colorado. we're going to squeeze a quick break in.>> it's time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. at just 12 years old, greg began building ponds with his dad. by the time he was 25, he had a booming business call aquascape. a family drama, the recession and a building collapse almost ended it all. see how he turned everything back around on "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? our new cocktail bitters were doing well, but after one tradeshow, we took off. all i could think about was our deadlines racing towards us. a loan would take too long. we needed money, now. my amex card helped meuy the ingredients to fill the ders. opportunities don't wait around, so you have to be ready for them. find out how american express cards and services can help prepa you r growth at open.com. find out how american express but we mean so much more. weean how can we help? we mean what can we do? we mean it's our turn. to do our part. to serve you for all you've done to
jacob soboroff in colorado. we're going to squeeze a quick break in.>> it's time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. at just 12 years old, greg began building ponds with his dad. by the time he was 25, he had a booming business call aquascape. a family drama, the recession and a building collapse almost ended it all. see how he turned everything back around on "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. will your business be ready when growth...
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jacob soboroff is on the floor with the florida delegation. jacob? >> i'm standing here with bernie navarro, the florida finance chair for marco rubio's presidential campaign, also a very good friend of marco rubio. what was the last time you spoke to him? >> i spoke to him often. we're in communication often. >> you talk to him today? >> yes, i did. >> what do you expect him to say? >> i think people are excited to see him. he received many delegates' votes last night. people heard his name and cheered for his name. marco's going to continue on the path that he said he was going to do, which is uphold his promise to support the nominee. are the words "i endorse donald trump" going to come out of his mouth tonight? >> that we haven't spoken about. i haven't seen the video. >> what do you think? >> i'm not sure. not sure. >> brian, that's the big question. marco rubio or ted cruz, will they step up and make this endorsement, or it will be a general support of the republican party and an honoring of that pledge? >> so much ground to cover. so little ti
jacob soboroff is on the floor with the florida delegation. jacob? >> i'm standing here with bernie navarro, the florida finance chair for marco rubio's presidential campaign, also a very good friend of marco rubio. what was the last time you spoke to him? >> i spoke to him often. we're in communication often. >> you talk to him today? >> yes, i did. >> what do you expect him to say? >> i think people are excited to see him. he received many delegates' votes...
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it's the other. >> jacob soboroff made his way to the d.c. delegation. funny thing, what happened after a shutout for donald trump from the floor. >> reporter: that's exactly right. sir, what's your name, tell me why you were just screaming poll the delegation. >> i'm chip nottingham. i'm a kasich delegate. >> reporter: we heard you guys report delegates for rubio, for kasich, but we heard up there 19 for donald trump. you said poll the delegation. what does that mean? >> on march 12 we had the largest republican primary in history of d.c. and the results of or 19 delegates were awarded ten to senator rubio, nine to governor kasich. we were all here to cast our vote for our respective candidates. i'm a kasich guy. i just cast my vote for john kasich. you heard the leader of our party announce the votes, nine for kasich, ten for rubio. the chair in a power play just deemed that all 19 would go to trump because they don't want to have any dissent although they clearly have the majority of the votes they need. this is an outrage. it's a reason why the repub
it's the other. >> jacob soboroff made his way to the d.c. delegation. funny thing, what happened after a shutout for donald trump from the floor. >> reporter: that's exactly right. sir, what's your name, tell me why you were just screaming poll the delegation. >> i'm chip nottingham. i'm a kasich delegate. >> reporter: we heard you guys report delegates for rubio, for kasich, but we heard up there 19 for donald trump. you said poll the delegation. what does that mean?...
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and also a scoop for jacob soboroff. the full throated endorsement came from scott walker. but as chuck todd was talking to mike lee earlier, there's suspense built in here. people will be watching the ted cruz speech very, very closely to see if he delivers the same kind of emphatic "vote for donald trump" that scott walker did. he included a reference to leaving pistols lying around on tables. they're worried about the precedent of supporting someone outside the mainstream of conservativism. but got to look at scott walker andic nikki haley, and say, if he wins, if we want our career to go forward, we better be with him. and if he loses, being part of the splinters. this is a very interesting moment. >> i'll match your jackson with a stewart. and i know it when i see it. he was talking about pornography, but i think the people in the audience tonight are going to be looking for ted cruz on sincerity points and what do you think they're going to get, hugh? >> i think ted cruz is going to endorse. i could be completely wrong, i have no idea, but i think he's going to endors
and also a scoop for jacob soboroff. the full throated endorsement came from scott walker. but as chuck todd was talking to mike lee earlier, there's suspense built in here. people will be watching the ted cruz speech very, very closely to see if he delivers the same kind of emphatic "vote for donald trump" that scott walker did. he included a reference to leaving pistols lying around on tables. they're worried about the precedent of supporting someone outside the mainstream of...
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jacob soboroff caught this on the floor of the convention today. it's pretty dramatic. it involves a delegate from utah and what she says were bodily threats she got on the floor of the convention for taking part in the anti-trump side of this fight today. watch. >> reporter: first things first, kara. can you tell me what happened? we saw you come out of the restroom in tears. what happened? >> when i opened the bathroom door, there were two women there, and they told me that i was really stupid. and i kind of blew it off. and they said, no, we're serious, you should die. the police should pull their force off of your delegation, off of utah, and you should die. all of you are stupid and you should have gotten behind trump. >> reporter: who were these women and why did they say that to you? >> i don't know. i can only assume that they were trump supporters and they were unhappy with utah getting up and asking for a roll call. >> reporter: utah was one of the states that got up and asked for a roll call. obviously, senator mike lee is your senator. how do you feel? i mea
jacob soboroff caught this on the floor of the convention today. it's pretty dramatic. it involves a delegate from utah and what she says were bodily threats she got on the floor of the convention for taking part in the anti-trump side of this fight today. watch. >> reporter: first things first, kara. can you tell me what happened? we saw you come out of the restroom in tears. what happened? >> when i opened the bathroom door, there were two women there, and they told me that i was...
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jacob soboroff is here.have all sorts of people out there including hallie jackson, who is with the trump campaign. he's going to be in colorado springs tonight. place for the u.s. olympic training ground. not related to politics, just a fun fact. what are we expecting tonight? what's going on? >> a week out from rio, it needs to be noted. you can see that people here lined up behind e me. folks are getting ready to head into this rally. here's what i expect to see from donald trump here and later tonight in denver. attacks against hillary clinton and the democratic speakers at that convention last night and the words that you heard. he's already started doing this. he went after mike bloomberg calling him little michael bloomberg saying his first term as mayor was a disaster. he went after john allen, saying he failed against the fight against isis. it struck a lot of people for how powerful it was at the convention. and trump will be going after, i expect, hillary clinton as he's done so. i want to make tw
jacob soboroff is here.have all sorts of people out there including hallie jackson, who is with the trump campaign. he's going to be in colorado springs tonight. place for the u.s. olympic training ground. not related to politics, just a fun fact. what are we expecting tonight? what's going on? >> a week out from rio, it needs to be noted. you can see that people here lined up behind e me. folks are getting ready to head into this rally. here's what i expect to see from donald trump here...
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jacob soboroff, thanks as always. steve lon gaegan spokesman for courageous conservative pac. i know you've been following these meetings very closely. what are you hearing about what's going on inside -- >> pretty much much of what you're hearing except that also mike lee and his wife of utah are involved in the current discussions and i think more and more of these rnc members, rules committee members are coming over to our side. they believe like we believe that a full and open dynamic convention would actually benefit the republican party and be a real battle of ideas. and i think all eyes of the nation and the world would be on the republican party if we open up to a full-blown convention the way it should be. this is about giving the delegates the opportunity to vote their conscience, to choose the candidate best suited to defeat hillary clinton and uphold the republican party's conservative platform. many of us like myself and many, many others do not believe donald trump is that candidate. >> but if you've got millions of voters who've spoken in primaries and caucuses
jacob soboroff, thanks as always. steve lon gaegan spokesman for courageous conservative pac. i know you've been following these meetings very closely. what are you hearing about what's going on inside -- >> pretty much much of what you're hearing except that also mike lee and his wife of utah are involved in the current discussions and i think more and more of these rnc members, rules committee members are coming over to our side. they believe like we believe that a full and open dynamic...
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. >> msnbc's jacob soboroff joins me now. jacob, what are you being told?orter: tamron, i'm here now on the plaza, not far away from you with two delegates from california in the room last night. first thing i want to ask you, what did you make of president obama's speech last night? >> amazing. he's always awesome. >> reporter: brett, tonight, hillary clinton will become the first woman to accept the nomination of a major political party. what do you hope to hear from her? >> i would love to hear from hillary what her plans are for us and how she intends to keep president obama's agenda going. and how she is going to keep the progressive movement going. >> reporter: in your delegation, laurena, a little bit of a loud vocal movement. do you expect any opposition like that tonight? >> yeah, i don't think they're ready to give up. we just came back from a breakfast this morning, and they're still at it. >> reporter: still at it. do you think you're going to see a lot of activity tonight or do you think everybody is going to unify behind hillary clinton? >> i
. >> msnbc's jacob soboroff joins me now. jacob, what are you being told?orter: tamron, i'm here now on the plaza, not far away from you with two delegates from california in the room last night. first thing i want to ask you, what did you make of president obama's speech last night? >> amazing. he's always awesome. >> reporter: brett, tonight, hillary clinton will become the first woman to accept the nomination of a major political party. what do you hope to hear from her?...
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protests are expected ahead of trump's official nomination this evening and our delegate hunter jacob soboroffas been in the thick of it since very beginning and the convention kickoff. look at him go. jacob joins me outside the convention hall. he's been gathering reaction to melania trump's speech and the fallout. jacob, what are people saying? what's their reaction? >> thomas, you know, when you talk to the delegates, their opinions matter most because today once the gavel is struck the decontamination will be casting their voice votes to actually nominate donald trump officially to become the president of the united states. so i'm with another delegate out here right now down the street from you as a matter of fact. mary jane smith from houston, texas. mary jane, allegedly melania trump may have taken passages from michelle obama's 2008 convention speech in denv, colorado, and put them into her speech last night. >> what is the wife going do but talk about her husband? he's a great guy, a good husband, good father, that's what michelle obama did and mrs. trump should be allowed to do the s
protests are expected ahead of trump's official nomination this evening and our delegate hunter jacob soboroffas been in the thick of it since very beginning and the convention kickoff. look at him go. jacob joins me outside the convention hall. he's been gathering reaction to melania trump's speech and the fallout. jacob, what are people saying? what's their reaction? >> thomas, you know, when you talk to the delegates, their opinions matter most because today once the gavel is struck...
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now let's go down to jacob soboroff with the california delegation. that is ground zero for this different feeling we're seeing today versus yesterday. >> 24 hours ago in the california delegation it was an entirely different scene. where you're seeing these america banners, last night a huge amount of anti-tpp, anti-hillary clinton signs. the vibe is completely different tonight. yesterday we saw bernie sanders supporters shaking their head when he was endorsing hillary clinton. today it was remarkable. a former bill clinton opponent -- clinton family opponent, jerry brown of california, was actually the one to read the names, the numbers of the delegates from california endorsing hillary clinton and making her the nominee. >> jacob soboroff on the floor, thank you. >> i want to turn to tom brokaw now. let's talk about bill clinton and what he may deliver here. when he first came onto the campaign trail, he was seen as her not-so-secret weapon. can he deliver still? >> never underestimate what bill clinton can do at a podium. we've watched that for a
now let's go down to jacob soboroff with the california delegation. that is ground zero for this different feeling we're seeing today versus yesterday. >> 24 hours ago in the california delegation it was an entirely different scene. where you're seeing these america banners, last night a huge amount of anti-tpp, anti-hillary clinton signs. the vibe is completely different tonight. yesterday we saw bernie sanders supporters shaking their head when he was endorsing hillary clinton. today it...
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jacob soboroff is joining me from the convention floor. lot to talk about tonight from those three men, but what are you hearing from delegates on the floor? >> they are talking about the same thing you guys are talking about out there. donald trump, russia and hacking hillary clinton's e-mails. what's happening is celebrities are practicing of "what the world needs now" which feels appropriate given all this conversation today. i want to introduce you to friends of mine from the pennsylvania delegation. . you are talking about the e-mail situation. he wants russia to hack e-mails. >> i think it's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. this is the first time in the united states history that a presidential candidate has blatantly asked a foreign power to commit espionage against his opponent. it's the most ridiculous thing. this tells us that donald trump is willing to do anything, even if it means risking the safety of all american citizens, in order to gain power. this man is extremely dangerous. and then, if not to add insult to i
jacob soboroff is joining me from the convention floor. lot to talk about tonight from those three men, but what are you hearing from delegates on the floor? >> they are talking about the same thing you guys are talking about out there. donald trump, russia and hacking hillary clinton's e-mails. what's happening is celebrities are practicing of "what the world needs now" which feels appropriate given all this conversation today. i want to introduce you to friends of mine from...
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delegate hunter jacob soboroff there. fact check, trump is right.g decisive vote killing any last chance to do this. >> he sure is right. that was embarrassing defeat for never trump movement we both sat in this room for hours on end and watched them make their very best effort to stop donald trump. i followed these delegates a long time colorado, pennsylvania, not just some but all of the delegates at the convention, now that they have failed in that effort, what are they going to do? met up with the leaders unbound movement to see what their plan is. will there be some form of protest by delegates inside? >> well, given what rnc and trump campaign will do, it's not wise to tell you what we might do. through intimidation and everything they have done, it's important we don't talk about the specifics. >> reporter: i'll ask you one more time, do you think there will be some form of protest. >> some form of protest, no doubt. the delegates are angry. they are angry, outraged about what happened. what we're there to do is make it clear to the rest of t
delegate hunter jacob soboroff there. fact check, trump is right.g decisive vote killing any last chance to do this. >> he sure is right. that was embarrassing defeat for never trump movement we both sat in this room for hours on end and watched them make their very best effort to stop donald trump. i followed these delegates a long time colorado, pennsylvania, not just some but all of the delegates at the convention, now that they have failed in that effort, what are they going to do?...
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jacob soboroff coming out of retirement, on the ground in cleveland. has the task of making something of this mystery. jacob, you followed all the state convention nets spring. they lined up the delegates that would come to the convention and the meetings like the one we are talking about today and make life as difficult as possible for donald trump. what were they trying to do today and what can they do after today? >> and they are still trying to do it, i should say, steve. let me show you quickly where this is all going down. i will walk you to the edge of that escalator. you see that blue, called pipe and drake, and in a theater world, come on, you can go down the escalator, go ahead. you were talking about in a normal year at the committee meeting, like you are talking about changing the first four primaries. whether they are opened or closed or things they are doing now and whether or not to let lobbyists sit on the national republican committee, rules committee, would be the big story out of here. but the big story as you have said is whether or
jacob soboroff coming out of retirement, on the ground in cleveland. has the task of making something of this mystery. jacob, you followed all the state convention nets spring. they lined up the delegates that would come to the convention and the meetings like the one we are talking about today and make life as difficult as possible for donald trump. what were they trying to do today and what can they do after today? >> and they are still trying to do it, i should say, steve. let me show...
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jacob soboroff has gotten to watch all of this from the floor. he's on the floor once again. jacob? >> reporter: you know, i was thinking about what you guys were saying. as i have crossed this country over the last six months talking to voters, seeing this process unfold, at every turn donald trump seems to do tun expected. the man is here on this night, he will expect -- excuse me, accept the nomination for the republican nomination of president of the united states and everything that happened here would indicate that twhaent going to work out for him over the last three days. this gentleman right here, and all of these delegates sort of personify that. let me introduce you to john shepherd. we are live on msnbc. you were telling me that you came into this convention a ted cruz delegate. you were excited about ted cruz, bound to ted cruz, but you are now gung-ho for donald trump. why is that? >> he's the nominee. he is what we are putting forward in the party. ted cruz, nice guy, but he's not the nominee. i'm a realist, a pragmatist so i'm going to vote. >> none of this as my gra
jacob soboroff has gotten to watch all of this from the floor. he's on the floor once again. jacob? >> reporter: you know, i was thinking about what you guys were saying. as i have crossed this country over the last six months talking to voters, seeing this process unfold, at every turn donald trump seems to do tun expected. the man is here on this night, he will expect -- excuse me, accept the nomination for the republican nomination of president of the united states and everything that...
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msnbc's jacob soboroff has a behind-the-scenes look of what goes on backstage. >> we're live in the bowelsells fargo center with the ceo of the democratic national convention committee. not only are you the ceo of this convention committee but turn ceo of the 2008 convention committee two very historic conventions first with president obama and now with secretary clinton. how do you feel? >> i feel great. i'm in a good mood. one night down, three to go. >> let's do something that i don't think anybody has gotten to do before, you're going to give us a tour live on multiple sclerosis mee-- msnbc of the pa people take. >> right now we're going to go under the stage. it's dark back here and there's some steps and the steps will take you to stage left. >> this is where everyone comes out? where bernie sanders walked out from last night, where president clinton will walk out from tonight? >> that's right. you come up here and there are hair and make up people here. you hold here around you sit in that chair and we stack speakers three at a time. the stage manager puts you on deck. there's tape
msnbc's jacob soboroff has a behind-the-scenes look of what goes on backstage. >> we're live in the bowelsells fargo center with the ceo of the democratic national convention committee. not only are you the ceo of this convention committee but turn ceo of the 2008 convention committee two very historic conventions first with president obama and now with secretary clinton. how do you feel? >> i feel great. i'm in a good mood. one night down, three to go. >> let's do something...
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jacob soboroff on the floor, thank you, sir. now joining me, "washington post," mr. fix boss, chris cillizza, ruth marcus, and somebody who reads "the washington post" occasionally, republican strategist, kevin kellums, who served briefly as trump's director of surrogates, but also has a longtime indiana background and knows mike pence pretty well. so, i'm going to -- kevin, i'm going to start with you, with since you have at least two weeks of experience in trump world. are you surprised at how this melania thing was handled, and that there seems to be a disconnect between the professional staff and the family? >> i'm not entirely surprised, because this is a difficult enterprise. and the fact is, it's very easy to make these kinds of mistakes. but what you can also do is clean them up quickly. and i think, chris said this morning, the same thing. it's not that complicated to clean it up. all you do is figure out what the facts are, put them out, move on. and instead, we have a three-day story, which could have been a half a day story. >> right. ruth, i think we sti
jacob soboroff on the floor, thank you, sir. now joining me, "washington post," mr. fix boss, chris cillizza, ruth marcus, and somebody who reads "the washington post" occasionally, republican strategist, kevin kellums, who served briefly as trump's director of surrogates, but also has a longtime indiana background and knows mike pence pretty well. so, i'm going to -- kevin, i'm going to start with you, with since you have at least two weeks of experience in trump world. are...
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. >> let's get you inside with jacob soboroff. acob, what are you hearing about clinton's speech and what delegates want to hear? >> i'm here with two delegates from florida. marion is a superdelegate. rose is a district level. you guys have sat here now through three diefs this. the beginning was a little raucous and seems like the party is coming together around hillary clinton and tim kaine. what are you hoping to hear tonight? >> i'm hoping to hear that hillary is going to talk about all those issues that we are concerned about. children, education, and social security of course. and unity among the bernie supporters, which they are coming around. >> rose, what about yourself? unity seems to have been an issue, but they have come together. what do you hope to hear from secretary clinton this evening? >> we have come together in our party. we are coming together. as you see i'm a hillary supporter. >> i couldn't tell, rose. >> feel the bern. i am feeling the bern. by that i am meaning i'm fired up and ready to go. but i'm hoping
. >> let's get you inside with jacob soboroff. acob, what are you hearing about clinton's speech and what delegates want to hear? >> i'm here with two delegates from florida. marion is a superdelegate. rose is a district level. you guys have sat here now through three diefs this. the beginning was a little raucous and seems like the party is coming together around hillary clinton and tim kaine. what are you hoping to hear tonight? >> i'm hoping to hear that hillary is going to...
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thank you, jacob soboroff and katy tur. come back, i am going to talk to michael and colin who were brilliant. in realtime with us, stick around for the real guys, colin and michael and stick around for this dynamite, our live coverage continues in cleveland. this is a third time that cleveland had a national convention. calvin coy believe it or not and now donald trump. right back after this. >>> that's a young jay leno. >> he's got white hair. >> this guy? >> he's an average kid >> dude, right there. >> i don't know. this is mike pence. >> is it? >> which one do you think is mike pence? >> lets see. >> here? no, that's the dad from "frazier." >> no, sandusky. [ laughter ] >> live with michael che and colin jost right here. >> philly and cleveland >> culturally, philly thinks that we are on their side and that's going to be a lot of fun. >> that's amazing. >> the cleveland is 53% african-americans, can you tell by looking at here >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> have you ever seen so many forms? >> no. >> they were talking about l
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. >> thanks for trying, jacob soboroff just above bernie sanders as he makes his way, short walk from the tunnel over to his home state's delegation. >> -- 33 votes for senator sanders. washington. you have 118 votes. how do you cast your votes? >> madam secretary, i am jackson, chair of the washington democratic party. in washington state we are proud to be committed members of a party that believes in building bridges, not walls. a party that believes in inclusion, not exclusion. a party that believes in opportunity and not opportunism. the dream act and not living in a dream world. and standing up for working families, not standing on top of them. tonight, washington state, the evergreen state under the leadership of governor jay insley, champions of good progressive policies and home to 29 federally recognized tribes and urban indians and alaskan natives from across indian country, washington has two abstentions and is proud, very proud to cast 74 votes for the inspiring and transformative senator bernie sanders. >> this is washington state. it's interesting, the last states alpha
. >> thanks for trying, jacob soboroff just above bernie sanders as he makes his way, short walk from the tunnel over to his home state's delegation. >> -- 33 votes for senator sanders. washington. you have 118 votes. how do you cast your votes? >> madam secretary, i am jackson, chair of the washington democratic party. in washington state we are proud to be committed members of a party that believes in building bridges, not walls. a party that believes in inclusion, not...
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. >> jacob soboroff joins me now. they tried but is it essentially over for this trump movement?reporter: well, you'll have to ask kendall that question. i want to talk to you about what a hot mess it was in here yesterday. what a disaster it was yesterday in the morning for the rnc and republican party. we have reporters from around the country that have come to the colorado delegation to tell a story of the woman you're sitting with right now. kendall is a history teacher. her husband is a chiropractor. she is your ordinary american woman that got together with a bunch of people that wanted to stop donald trump. it was an extraordinary thing to see. it ground the proceedings to a halt. kendall hope today get a role call vote which she hoped would lead to someone other than donald trump becoming the nominee. the republican party didn't allow that to happen. the big question is now what are they going to do today? >> all right. i disagree. i don't think it makes you an ordinary woman. earlier on "morning joe" when they asked if you were going to walk out you said something a bit
. >> jacob soboroff joins me now. they tried but is it essentially over for this trump movement?reporter: well, you'll have to ask kendall that question. i want to talk to you about what a hot mess it was in here yesterday. what a disaster it was yesterday in the morning for the rnc and republican party. we have reporters from around the country that have come to the colorado delegation to tell a story of the woman you're sitting with right now. kendall is a history teacher. her husband...
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our own jacob soboroff, we saw him briefly for a moment, actually disappearing under a pile of balloonsthey dug him out? >> reporter: here i am, rachel. i'm over here in the ohio and pennsylvania delegations. we've got a special shout-out from donald trump tonight. of course, no republican has ever won the white house without winning the great state of ohio. pennsylvania and ohio have suffered a lot of manufacturing job losses. he spoke specifically to that. this gentleman you may remember from msnbc spending $30,000 to become an unbound delegate in state of pennsylvania. he's now here. how do you feel? >> i would have spent $100,000 to take part in this. the most amazing night. donald trump blew the lid off this convention. he hit every point. he's all-inclusive. he's the man. >> reporter: seth, come here! rachel, brian, remember this guy, too, the gastroenterologist, seth coffer md from pennsylvania, also ran to become an unbound delegate. he wasn't sure he was going to support donald trump. are you on the trump train now? >> i'll be honest with you, i was with him the whole time. i w
our own jacob soboroff, we saw him briefly for a moment, actually disappearing under a pile of balloonsthey dug him out? >> reporter: here i am, rachel. i'm over here in the ohio and pennsylvania delegations. we've got a special shout-out from donald trump tonight. of course, no republican has ever won the white house without winning the great state of ohio. pennsylvania and ohio have suffered a lot of manufacturing job losses. he spoke specifically to that. this gentleman you may...
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back to jacob soboroff on the floor. >> reporter: i'm here with donald trump jr.o you feel right now? >> it's awesome. it's totally surreal to be able to throw him over the top in this race after everything we have gone through in the last year in this process. totally awesome. >> reporter: melania trump has come under fire for that speech. accusations of plagiarism. how will that affect the nomination? >> it won't. she delivered an incredible speech for someone who avoided the public eye to get on that stage and to be able to do that, the way she did, i think was incredible. >> reporter: who is responsible for that happening? >> she worked with speechwriters to get something happening. that's what it is. that's it. >> reporter: will somebody be fired? >> i have to move. i have other people to talk to. it's awesome. it's totally surreal. i have never done anything bigger than this. that's for sure. it's pretty awesome. it's part of history. this campaign is part of history. it's a movement. not a campaign anymore. i see it from all the people in new york. even in
back to jacob soboroff on the floor. >> reporter: i'm here with donald trump jr.o you feel right now? >> it's awesome. it's totally surreal to be able to throw him over the top in this race after everything we have gone through in the last year in this process. totally awesome. >> reporter: melania trump has come under fire for that speech. accusations of plagiarism. how will that affect the nomination? >> it won't. she delivered an incredible speech for someone who...
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birddog reporting of those who have gone before him, like andrea mitchell, you may have heard jacob soboroff trying in vain to get a comment out of bernie sanders as he made his way to the floor. jacob has made his way to the vermont delegation. >> no dice as they say with bernie sanders. i'm here with donny, who you saw sitting next to bernie sanders, the chair of the vermont delegation. what did he say to you? what did you say to him? >> he sat down, he said how are you doing. i said i'm doing all right. i said how are you doing? he goes me, too. >> how long did you know this was going to happen? i have been annoying you all day to ask will somebody move to have a vote by acclimation and you said i don't know. be honest. how long have you known? >> you saw the phone. >> this phone right here is a phone in the booth. >> the white phone went blinky-blinky, stopped. and it would keep going on and off. we really didn't know until about two or three minutes beforehand. >> two or three minutes before. what was it like to have that, you guys passed, you went last, then bernie sanders made these r
birddog reporting of those who have gone before him, like andrea mitchell, you may have heard jacob soboroff trying in vain to get a comment out of bernie sanders as he made his way to the floor. jacob has made his way to the vermont delegation. >> no dice as they say with bernie sanders. i'm here with donny, who you saw sitting next to bernie sanders, the chair of the vermont delegation. what did he say to you? what did you say to him? >> he sat down, he said how are you doing. i...
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jacob soboroff is getting used to the confines of his second convention in as many weeks. he is on the very, we should point out, smaller than normal actual floor of this convention. >> reporter: in fact, i'm up in the stands because there are so many delegates here, double the amount that were in cleveland, the actual floor stretches up into the risers. i'm in the colorado delegation, probably one of the only places you will find someone wearing this. a necklace made of plastic marijuana leaves. these three folks right here are bernie sanders delegates and they were three of the folks who earlier this evening got up and booed at the beginning of the program. i want to start with you, sir. state representative from the state of colorado. why did you boo? >> because we have the right to. because we are unhappy with the way things are working in the dnc and we are bernie sanders fans and we have some concerns. >> reporter: hard not to see your anti-tpp, trans pacific partnership signs you are holding and there are many people in this arena that are holding those signs. presi
jacob soboroff is getting used to the confines of his second convention in as many weeks. he is on the very, we should point out, smaller than normal actual floor of this convention. >> reporter: in fact, i'm up in the stands because there are so many delegates here, double the amount that were in cleveland, the actual floor stretches up into the risers. i'm in the colorado delegation, probably one of the only places you will find someone wearing this. a necklace made of plastic marijuana...
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check in with our delegate hunter jacob soboroff.hat's reaction where you're standing to donald trump's hacking comment? >> what you'd expect from hillary clinton fans. i think you can tell that these two ladies from the colorado delegation are fans of hillary clinton. what was your reaction to hearing that donald trump wanted russia to hack into hillary clinton's e-mails today? >> donald trump is really a a faker. he's also about trying to get attention. i think it was just a way to keep the e-mail issue in the news. and anything he says, anything that comes out of his mouth, there's no substance behind it. >> that's what the campaign wants to do. the campaign issued a statement after trump said that saying let's not forget the e-mail issue. you think that issue is over at this point? >> totally. the fbi has cleared her. there's no charges. >> when you hear the nominee for president saying he wants a foreign government to hack into the e-mails of a former secretary of state, what's your reaction to that? >> that's somebody that shou
check in with our delegate hunter jacob soboroff.hat's reaction where you're standing to donald trump's hacking comment? >> what you'd expect from hillary clinton fans. i think you can tell that these two ladies from the colorado delegation are fans of hillary clinton. what was your reaction to hearing that donald trump wanted russia to hack into hillary clinton's e-mails today? >> donald trump is really a a faker. he's also about trying to get attention. i think it was just a way...
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jacob soboroff was running all over the floor. spent half the day on the floor, jacob, and the person i saw most was you. >> reporter: jose, good to see you back and forth. i wish we could have hung out longer. they're getting set, as you can see here. they had make america great gun, took it down. it was an absolutely mad house in here yesterday. as you said, basically this was an effort by the stop trump forces, one last gas as stopping the money from becoming the presumptive nominee. these are the microphones, shut off when members from delegations tried to get a roll call vote to ultimately, it turned out they weren't able to do that because the republican national committee claimed some states who signed petitions backed out. now the question is, will it be such a hot mess as it was yesterday. as hot of a mess as it was yesterday. this is where we're keeping our eyes trained. the colorado delegation, the leader of the stop -- free the delegates movement. they were the ones that walked out. when all of these other delegations w
jacob soboroff was running all over the floor. spent half the day on the floor, jacob, and the person i saw most was you. >> reporter: jose, good to see you back and forth. i wish we could have hung out longer. they're getting set, as you can see here. they had make america great gun, took it down. it was an absolutely mad house in here yesterday. as you said, basically this was an effort by the stop trump forces, one last gas as stopping the money from becoming the presumptive nominee....
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let's get over to jacob soboroff with the chair of the texas delegation at the republican convention. jacob? >> reporter: i'm here with the chairman of the texas state delegation. he was originally a ted cruz supporter. he's gotten behind donald trump now. i want to get your reaction to cruz's speech last night. he d not endorse donald trump. >> he gave a rousing speech. i think there was a hope and expectation he would endorse donald trump. he didn't. we know that. i think people were disappointed that that didn't happen. but it really comes down to two candidates in this race. we have hillary clinton, who is continuation of obama's failed policies and you have donald trump, who brings fresh and new life into the situation. our delegation is behind donald trump. he's our nominee. i'm the state chairman for texas, as you mentioned. we'll do everything in our power to ensure that trump takes texas and provide thousands of volunteers around this nation from texas on our strike forces to go into these battle ground states and win this thing. the supreme court is hanging in the balance. i
let's get over to jacob soboroff with the chair of the texas delegation at the republican convention. jacob? >> reporter: i'm here with the chairman of the texas state delegation. he was originally a ted cruz supporter. he's gotten behind donald trump now. i want to get your reaction to cruz's speech last night. he d not endorse donald trump. >> he gave a rousing speech. i think there was a hope and expectation he would endorse donald trump. he didn't. we know that. i think people...
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let's go to jacob soboroff.building i believe today. >> no doubt about it. they're excited about senator kaine butt they' they're talkin something else in this delegation, russia and donald trump is on her mind. what do you think when you heard donald trump say he hopes that russia finds what he calls hillary clinton's missing e-mails? >> well, of course we don't know what the full story is behind all of this, but the first reaction that i had was that donald trump clearly doesn't understand that all of the threats to the united states are not just physical. it's not just about physical terrorism. it's about cybersecurity and cyberterrorism. and here he is, inviting a nation that has had its challenges. historically. to hack our e-mails. and i think that means most americans can't feel secure under that kind of leadership. hillary clinton understands how much we need to have a cybersecurity safety system that will allow us to be free from people intruding into our activities in the united states. so it is very d
let's go to jacob soboroff.building i believe today. >> no doubt about it. they're excited about senator kaine butt they' they're talkin something else in this delegation, russia and donald trump is on her mind. what do you think when you heard donald trump say he hopes that russia finds what he calls hillary clinton's missing e-mails? >> well, of course we don't know what the full story is behind all of this, but the first reaction that i had was that donald trump clearly doesn't...
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." >> jacob soboroff talking about the anti trump movement. something will happen on thursday. there. jacob, what have you learned on the ground? >> reporter: yeah, so tamron, obviously the donald trump campaign and the rnc would like everybody to be focused up here tonight, once this thing gavels in around 5:30, but the reality of the situation is, we're going to be focused this way, and i think this is where the action is going to be. remember yesterday, this was all about the roll call vote. the anti trump delegates. wanted to stand up and voice their support for either their candidate of their preference or revert to the old rules from 2012. come with me right here. the utah delegation, senator mike lee stood up and objected to the fact that that roll call vote had not been called. we are going to be here today, because we expect tamron, them to protest yet again. what they're going to do, we don't know. but there is a roll called today, a different kind of roll call, for the nomination of donald trump as president of the united states. and that's where we expect to see the
." >> jacob soboroff talking about the anti trump movement. something will happen on thursday. there. jacob, what have you learned on the ground? >> reporter: yeah, so tamron, obviously the donald trump campaign and the rnc would like everybody to be focused up here tonight, once this thing gavels in around 5:30, but the reality of the situation is, we're going to be focused this way, and i think this is where the action is going to be. remember yesterday, this was all about...
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jacob soboroff is down there who is an honorary delegate at this point. what's the buzz in there? we have been seeing a lot of dancing, still a little negative on cruz, positive on trump. what are you hearing? >> reporter: you got to come join me tonight. you played some of the greatest hits. the big question is, what if anything is going to throw off this convention. tonight, like i said, you played the clips. the first night, it was that protest about the rules here at the convention. we saw the colorado delegation walk off the floor, the second night was overshadowed by melania trump's night -- speech, rather. the previous night, accusations of plagiarism. last night, the vice presidential nominating speech was overshadowed by ted cruz's non-endorsement. we will all be looking at donald trump's speech this evening to see what he's going to say. he's not a fan of teleprompters or he says he's not but this is where we are going to be looking because is he going to stick to the script or is he going to go off-script, off message, and do what donald trump
jacob soboroff is down there who is an honorary delegate at this point. what's the buzz in there? we have been seeing a lot of dancing, still a little negative on cruz, positive on trump. what are you hearing? >> reporter: you got to come join me tonight. you played some of the greatest hits. the big question is, what if anything is going to throw off this convention. tonight, like i said, you played the clips. the first night, it was that protest about the rules here at the convention....
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jacob soboroff and leann caldwell have been all over this rules fight. kelly o'donnell live on the floor. ben ginsberg, our expert on these rules. former republican national committee general counsel. jacob, let me start with you. you have been navigating this, narrating the action for us. where to next, and how many state delegations are involved in this? >> i'm told, chuck, by a source involved in the whipping operation that the states that had withdrawn are minnesota, iowa, washington, d.c., and i believe maine. minnesota, iowa, washington, d.c., and maine. i'm told by that source that essentially from their side, these people didn't know what they were signing on to. i have someone here who probably can clarify that. the one who was leading on the other side of that. i'll try to grab kendall when i can. this was an effort by the whip operation to withdraw the signatures from these delegates that have been submitted and met the threshold of what was required for a role call vote. they were confident they were going to be able to do it. >> i'm live agai
jacob soboroff and leann caldwell have been all over this rules fight. kelly o'donnell live on the floor. ben ginsberg, our expert on these rules. former republican national committee general counsel. jacob, let me start with you. you have been navigating this, narrating the action for us. where to next, and how many state delegations are involved in this? >> i'm told, chuck, by a source involved in the whipping operation that the states that had withdrawn are minnesota, iowa, washington,...
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. >> jacob soboroff has newt gingrich with him. are you there?rter: yeah, i'm here with speaker gingrich who will sit with the georgia delegation tonight, not in the box with donald trump. i want to ask about your defense of ted cruz's speech last night. you defended his use of the word conscience. lot of people thought that was a reference to the colorado delegation, kendal unruh, the conscience clause. you don't think he was endorsing those protests? >> i have no idea. the very paragraph he stated which was you can vote for anybody who supports the constitution, would mean if you are a conservative, the only candidate you could vote for was trump. clearly no conservative believes that hillary clinton will support the constitution. by cruz's own self-definition, it was an indirect statement that you ought to be voting for trump. >> you think it was an insult to trump? >> i don't know what's in cruz's head. you go ask him. i don't have any idea. >> reporter: what do you expect tonight from donald trump? >> i suspect he will tell us why he is capa
. >> jacob soboroff has newt gingrich with him. are you there?rter: yeah, i'm here with speaker gingrich who will sit with the georgia delegation tonight, not in the box with donald trump. i want to ask about your defense of ted cruz's speech last night. you defended his use of the word conscience. lot of people thought that was a reference to the colorado delegation, kendal unruh, the conscience clause. you don't think he was endorsing those protests? >> i have no idea. the very...
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jacob soboroff is at the convention. this is changing by the minute. what's the latest? >> so right now what's happening is the credentials and the platform committees are filing their reports on the stage right now. the governor haley barbour is on the stage right now. and he is doing one of those reports. the next report up is the rules committ committee. there are eight states and the district of columbia who have filed a petition to throw ought the rules approved last week. they think they can still stop donald trump from becoming the republican nominee by filing what's called, or by holding what's called a roll call on the rules of all of the delegates on the floor right now. we're in the most crucial spot possible for that because we are standing in the middle of the colorado delegation. this gentleman's name is randy. he's one of the members of the delegation. you all recommend kendall hunter. what they hope happen is once the call goes up for the rules committee that these microphones turn on. that's at the discretion of the chair, right, of reince priebus. so yo
jacob soboroff is at the convention. this is changing by the minute. what's the latest? >> so right now what's happening is the credentials and the platform committees are filing their reports on the stage right now. the governor haley barbour is on the stage right now. and he is doing one of those reports. the next report up is the rules committ committee. there are eight states and the district of columbia who have filed a petition to throw ought the rules approved last week. they think...
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let me check in with jacob soboroff, our delegate hunter, who is sitting in the virginia delegation.ng for them. they have somebody on the ticket. but obviously, the sanders stuff has overwhelmed everything. >> reporter: yeah, it absolutely has. we are just getting started here today, obviously. we are just listening to paul booth and we are now listening to the former head of the naacp -- >> let me pause. let's hear how he fires up these sanders supporters. >> i spent my entire life [ inaudible ]. and i'm proud to be one of the 1900 delegates here tonight from the bernie sanders campaign. >> you're listening -- this is sanders' representative. we are listening to him talk about the platform committee. let's keep listening. >> so we can defeat donald trump. and i'm looking forward to joining him along with all of us to take back the senate, elect great local and state change makers, defeat trump and make hillary clinton president of these united states. and i'm proud to support this platform, the most progressive platform in the history of our party. it empowers us all to pull togeth
let me check in with jacob soboroff, our delegate hunter, who is sitting in the virginia delegation.ng for them. they have somebody on the ticket. but obviously, the sanders stuff has overwhelmed everything. >> reporter: yeah, it absolutely has. we are just getting started here today, obviously. we are just listening to paul booth and we are now listening to the former head of the naacp -- >> let me pause. let's hear how he fires up these sanders supporters. >> i spent my...
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that take mess to delegate hunter jacob soboroff. e he joins me from the convention floor.forward to tonight? >> i'm up here in the north dakota delegation, which is not particularly close to the stage. take a look at where i'm sitting with my friends. i would say these qualify as the nosebleeds, but what i found out is that there's a special reason they are excited about sitting here. warren is the vice chair of the party. what's so good about sitting up here? >> every time they take our picture, we see chelsea, gabrielle giffords, scott sitting right behind us. it's kind of a treat. >> you have the vip box up here. >> we do, but don't tell anyone. >> the vip box is right up here. are you kpoited to hear secretary clinton? what do you hope to hear from her? >> wasn't that fun when she surprised all of us and walked out? it was exciting. i am just hoping, again, for unity in the party. when she comes out, i hope this place is just a roar and we're all on our feet supporting her. >> you made your way through the rainstorm that kate is out in right now to get here. i'm soakin
that take mess to delegate hunter jacob soboroff. e he joins me from the convention floor.forward to tonight? >> i'm up here in the north dakota delegation, which is not particularly close to the stage. take a look at where i'm sitting with my friends. i would say these qualify as the nosebleeds, but what i found out is that there's a special reason they are excited about sitting here. warren is the vice chair of the party. what's so good about sitting up here? >> every time they...
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jacob soboroff has been talking to some of the delegates. what have they been telling you? >> i'm here with a delegate from the great state of texas. everybody is on their way in even though it did you waoesn't until tonight. did you do that chant? >> i did. i took part of it. >> you think this is too much of a focus on hillary clinton and not enough on donald trump? >> i think it's a great balance. i think the goal was to really educate people that it's more than just these e-mails that there's so much more that her lying isn't just something small and specific, but it goes back in history. i think he was just trying to let the people know and let those people sitting on the couches at home know this isn't the lady for this country. she has been lying for years. it's not just something she's lying about now. >> senator from your state ted cruz is speaking tonight. today you went to a thank you barbecue for ted cruz. do you expect cruz to endorse donald trump? >> i would hope he would endorse him. i think as any elected republican official, it's time to get behind and back
jacob soboroff has been talking to some of the delegates. what have they been telling you? >> i'm here with a delegate from the great state of texas. everybody is on their way in even though it did you waoesn't until tonight. did you do that chant? >> i did. i took part of it. >> you think this is too much of a focus on hillary clinton and not enough on donald trump? >> i think it's a great balance. i think the goal was to really educate people that it's more than just...
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jacob soboroff spoke to some of the delegates.ersations, i'm going to ask you what we were talking about before. i'm trying to figure out if you're a stop trump person, short of stopping trump, what deal could you be offered that you could say okay, fine, i'm going home? >> it's a big question, chris. i want to take you with me where not many other media organizations have been before. we're not allowed actually into the rules committee meeting room. but we are allowed in a very trump anyway on the escalator here. what we are hearing is that the type of deal that someone like kendall onra, chair of the stop trump movement, the free the delegates organization, could strike would be something that would potentially allow a vote, while still insisting that donald trump somehow would become the nominee. whether or not that's the case, whether or not that's possible, i'm not sure. but how feels about the possibility of this happening and whether or not she has the votes, i asked her exclusively on her way in here this morning. take a l
jacob soboroff spoke to some of the delegates.ersations, i'm going to ask you what we were talking about before. i'm trying to figure out if you're a stop trump person, short of stopping trump, what deal could you be offered that you could say okay, fine, i'm going home? >> it's a big question, chris. i want to take you with me where not many other media organizations have been before. we're not allowed actually into the rules committee meeting room. but we are allowed in a very trump...