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victoria ensly and jacob soboroff join us now. victo victo what do we know about this vote? i did extensive reporting about this pivotal moment that happened in the situation room. there were 11 officials invited to the meeting. they were allowed to bring deputies. stephen miller got angry and pointed his frustration towards kirstjen nielsen. he said it's your fault that the policy hasn't been carried out. he said the justice department stood ready to prosecute. dhs needed to do the separating so that any immigrants with children would be separated. nielsen said there was not enough resources to do this and it would result in separation and possibly losing children in this chaotic and clogged system. miller said forget that. forget logistics. let's put this to a vote. a sea of hands went up. nielsen's was not among them. she was out voted. within a number of days she signed the memo that resulted in the separation of 2,800 children. to put a fine point on this, it was here that we see miller said that anyone who doesn't enforce this law is unamerican. he was not someone who

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with me is jacob soboroff, one of the reporters who broke the story. thank you for making time for us tell us who was in the room and tell us how this vote by hand came to be. >> alicia, it was unbelievably shocking, even to me who covered this policy from beginning to end and saw what actually happened on the ground to the thousands of children who were systematically tortured in the words of physicians for human rights by the trump administration. we're talking about a.j. sessions, kirstjen nielsen, steven miller, mike pompeo, alex azhar, john kelly, the white house chief of staff at the time, chris liddell, a deputy chief of staff, mark short, now chief of staff to the president of the united states. all of these people were invited to be at these meetings at a time when separations were happening and had been happening but not at the scale that steven miller had wanted to see them happen. he was pushing for an across-the-board massive separation. and kirstjen miller fwas the ony one pushing back. this will be a massive logistical failure if they mo

joining me now is nbc correspondent jacob soboroff author of "separated." start our conversation, i want to read this statement from president trump about his sister being secretly recorded. he writes, every day is something else. who cares. i miss my brother and i'll work hard for the american people. not everyone agrees, but the results are obvious. our country will soon be stronger than ever before. i just wanted to put that out there so people would know that the president responded to that recording. but, jacob, from your perspective, especially what not only president trump's sister, but a former federal judge, what she had to say about what's happening at the border, your reaction? >> first, good to be with you, jonathan. it's nice to see you. my reaction was i think the same as a lot of people, it is incredible to see that the sister of the president of the united states who perpetrated what physicians for human rights, the nobel peace prize winning organization called torture, she sees it the same way many of us do, exactly for what it was. and mar

. >> nbc's jacob soboroff is joining us now. >> jacob, welcome. >> it is good to be here joshua. >> canl us what led to this show of hands vote. >> i do want to say and i was listening to your conversation with michael. it is fascinating to hear members of the trump family and of course, the summer and mary trump and one of the key reasons she decided to write her book and see it as it really is. >> family separations and government sanctions and child abuse and positions for um rights. describe family separations. so what we described and julia ainsley and i have learned played out in the situation room ahead of that policy in may 2018. it is not remarkable because of who is there. we are talking about secretary of state as well as john bolton who was invited to be in this room. john kelly, the white house's chief of staff. the white house council and there was a conflict between steven miller who wanted to go all out because tlahat's the on way i can describe it. tens of thousands more as we often separate it. the government is not ready and this does not exonerate him. ultimately she

. >> jacob soboroff there for us in los angeles. jacob, thank you. >>> let's turn now to former los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa and served as chair back in 2012. good to see you, mr. mayor. thanks for your time this morning. one of the messages -- >> good to see you, too. >> during that first night was unity. how effective was senator sanders at delivering that message, mayor? >> i think he was very effective. look, he's the pied piper of progressives in our country. he's made it absolutely clear. he's all behind joe biden. and that it's important for us to have people like john kasich at that convention. that it's important for us to bring together the country around the notion that whether you're a democrat or a republican that we can do better. that we must do better. that we need a president who can unite us and inspire us and who can bring us together for a common and better future. >> you, the theme tonight is leadership matters. and there's a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll i want to call your attention to it. i

joining us for a fact-check and reporting is jacob soboroff, author of "separated: inside an americanal immigration reporter for "the new york times," caitlin dickerson. jacob, let me begin with you, for those five people, it was obviously a beautifuler is sxhoen a beautiful moment as they gain citizenship. as you report this morning, there are a lot of people waiting in line for a ceremony just like that one who can't get it. >> yeah, indeed, willie. it was very obvious what this was. it was a brazen political stunt by the same people who brought you family separation, for tour of 5,400 children in the words of physician for human rights. you're right, this was an incredibly special moment for those five people, a moment they'll remember for the rest of their lives but there are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people who, by election day, will be waiting for the same opportunity paying $750, being ready to be nationalized citizens but unable to do so because the trump administration refuses to allow them to do those ceremonies virtually. the icing on the cake is tha