turner from ubs wealth management. i want to bring you live pictures from pretoria. thousands of protesters have joined opposition-let demonstrations calling on president jacob zuma tond down. excuse me, this is rex tillerson , the u.s. secretary of state, shaking the hand of sergey lavrov. that meeting taking place in moscow, of course. it takes place in a tense time for the relationship between the u.s. and russia. some of the headlines from lavrov -- russia has a number of questions on a number of u.s. news. saying the u.s.-syria attack was quite alarming. said, weria attack, he need to avoid such actions in future. russia is ready, he says, for a u.s. dialogue on equal footing. to the u.s. he says, you are with us or against us. a few comments from tillerson. states. secretary of russia talks come at an important part of our , an important moment in the relationship. he says he is looking forward to a frank and candid exchange with russia, coming into this meeting with lavrov with the intention of trying to persuade the russians to loosen their support of the syrian president, bashar al-assad. will a meeting with president clinton take place? that is another --