thanks to jacob weisberg an outstanding panel of the many, many thanks to all of you for your patience and for joining us this evening. [applause] >> do, larry and thanks to all of you for joining us this evening. i'm in turn when the director this project. that tariq ramadan is in the united states about the testament to the advocacy of three dozen organizations from the american academy of religion, the american association of university professors and pan-american center. six years ago, the bush administration reproach professor ramadan's visa ambien and from the united states. with the help of the aclu, the reorganization simonton out of lawsuit under the first amendment to challenge the ban an appeals court eventually rejected the bush administration basis with the band and as larry said earlier this year secretary of state hillary clinton signed an order that lifted the ban altogether. if not for the lawsuit, the three american organizations filed several years ago, this evening's discussion wouldn't be taking place at all. at the end of this evening, we cannot decide for ourselv