you were also speaking with the reporter from slate named jacob weisberg.ou recall that daniel response quote, i don't talking with someone from slate. i'm not sure the name. now, for me, i actually called you her backup in court. tell me about the conversation that took place yes. >> well, i actually found my way to her rather than the other way around and it was earlier than october. it was soon after the republican convention in 2016. and i was trying to convince her to go public with the story, to give it to me in a form i could use it and she wanted money for this story and i explained to her that slade and other credible news organizations like cnn, like abc don't pay for stories. she had more experience in kind of a tabloid world in which they do. and she felt the story had value and she wanted to be paid for it. i think she was kind of indifferent whether she got paid for selling the story or for baking. the story go away. she did. >> that's interesting because her motivation has been questioned a great deal as to whether she was into feared for her