she seemed such an anomaly in a world of men, and even jackie onassis, jacqueline kennedy, looked down at her for being involved in politics, it was not lady-like, and certainly among first ladies of asia during that time, the idea of this woman with a gun and speak her mind regardless of what the men were saying, and even tell the president to shut up, was something really shocking, not just to asian but the world in a way, and yet there she was, sort of blabbering her ideas without any sense of inhibition. >> before madame nhu there was madame shanclek. she was well-opinion and had a feeling for what americans and americans were looking for in a first lady, and madame nhu didn't have that. i think madame nhu would have looked for her place in the world but there was no role model no shoes for her to step into. so she had to blunder her way through it, and the dynamic with the kennedy family and the nor family in saying gone is fascinating. two catholic families, family regimes, jfk and his family, and diem and his family, and then madame nhu, this first lady and jackie kennedy in the