and from brooklyn, jacqueline woodson, author of novels for adults, as well as newbery honor, winningoung readers. she was the library of congress national ambassador for young people's literature and a macarthur fellow lasyear, and it's really nice to see and talk to both of you. i feel like i always start with fiction, so for once we're going to start with nonfiction. carlos, you give us a couple of picks. >> yes, i want to start with two books that i think get to some current major crises we're facing, but do so in really novel ways. first is "under a white sky" by elizabeth kolbert. she's probably best known for her book "the sixth extinction," which depicted the crushing of the planet's biodiversity under the human footprint. this subsequent book is kind of a perfect sequel because it's a warning about how even very well-intentioned fixes to our environmental problems can be causing more damage. it's kind of a pessimistic book, but i think a really important one. okay, the second one i want to highlight is called "read until you understand" by farah griffin. >> brown: that's a go