an international humanitarian group, rabbi marvin goodman, and abbas moloo, who founded the jafria islamic school in pleasanton. i hope i said that name right. was i even close? >> jafria islamic school. >> jafria. okay. we were talking about the horror stories that you all heard from the yazidis when you went on this trip. and i'm trying to imagine how you -- i mean, it was horrible for them, but then this is something we don't encounter, we don't hear about, so... what did you do? what would you say to them after you heard these stories? >> so, my immediate response was to kind of stand up and give them a hug and say, "i'm sorry, on behalf of the muslims, for what you have to go through." and to me personally, i thought, "at the least, that is the one thing that i should do." and, you know, their response to that was, "not all five fingers are the same. not all muslims are the same." and that was kind of a good way to not lump all the muslims together, in terms of not everybody is bad. >> i'm just curious about the structure of the trip. were you all in the meetings together with these differen