i spoke to sybrina, tracy and jahvaris last night.he family never wanted to have in their lives to testify at the murder trial of their child and brother. i think sybrina was remarkable this morning. a woman of grace. an amazing parent. i think jahvaris's testimony shows these young men had incredible parents who were always present. he's a college student. trayvon martin was on his way to college when he turned 18. she was incredible. the questions from mr. o'mara about whether you hoped the voice was your son no mother in the world would hope to hear their child's voice being beaten, a gun to him, ultimately killed. so no mother ever wants to have this day in their lives. sybrina certainly today was remarkable on the stand. i know she is about to take the stand again. our prayers are with her from the trayvon martin foundation and those who have supported her. >> i think the defense was getting at if you're a mother and you know your child was shot and killed you have a preconceived notion, even if you vice president heard the tape,

jahvaris is a very quiet person. he did a great job to come in there and represent his younger brother who lost his life. it was a tough day for her. at the end of the day she was still keeping it together but she told me she was exhausted. remember, she has been here every day through these proceedings to make sure that her son gets justice, and we believe that she will. >> daryl parks, i appreciate you joining me. thank you so much. you know, you bring up some of the criticism about the cross-examination of sybrina fulton. we will ask the man himself who did that cross-exam, mr. mark o'mara, joining me live coming up next. do not miss this. >>> welcome back to this special, "self-defense or murder, the george zimmerman trial." the prosecution rested today and the defense began late this afternoon in sanford, florida, by calling the mother and the uncle of george zimmerman. with me now for an exclusive interview is mark o'mara, zimmerman's defense attorney. mr. o'mara, nice to see you, sir. big last couple weeks for

jahvaris says he has listened to the recording eight of times since then and is absolutely certain today that the person screaming was his brother. >> so jurors heard from trayvon's mother and brother and then for the last several hours they've been listening to testimony from the doctor who performed the autopsies. >> this dr. shiping bao, going after the doctor's knowledge and whether the doctor or prosecution violated rules on discovery. that's because new details emerging from the witness stand by this medical examiner who conducted the autopsy, for basically the past 15 months, his determination on how long trayvon martin lived after the gunshot, before being pronounced dead or being totally deceased, was between one and three minutes. today he testified, well, it could have been between one and ten minutes, which the defense thought was awfully big jump suddenly to make. he explained it by saying he did another autopsy three weeks ago of a similar case where somebody was shot in the heart, and now he gives that wider time frame. but on redirect, the prosecutor, did get the doctor t

then came jahvaris fulton, trayvon martin's older brother, student at fiu, florida international university down here. he testified he also recognized the voice in one of those 911 calls as that of his brother's, but he also acknowledged he previously told a reporter here in florida that he couldn't be sure, that he wasn't sure that it was his brother's. then after those two family members testified, dr. shipling bao, that's the medical xanler who you will be hearing from again in a few moments. that's where they left off, his cross examination. he basically testified he started by telling us that trayvon martin was 5'11", 158 pounds. he was shot by a single gunshot wound to the chest. he also testified that trayvon martin was alive somewhere between one and ten minutes after that initial shot. he went on to say that there were no injuries to trayvon martin's right hand. again, keep in mind sybrina fulton testified just an hour or two earlier that her son was right-handed, testified dr. bao said no injuries to the right hand, also said that no blood was found on either of the two hands. he

. >> trayvon martin's older brother jahvaris also testify. >> you recognize any voices on that tape n. >> yes. >> whose voice do you recognize? >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> but the defense played an interview jahvaris did with a reporter last year saying he was not sure. >> i'm not completely positive that is him. >> george zimmerman looked emotional as his mother, gladys, took street stand. >> do you know whose voice was that screaming in the background? >> yes, sir. >> and whose voice was that? >> my son, george. >> are you certain of that? >> because he's my son. >> zimmerman's uncle also testified. >> i felt the scream like my nephew is screaming for his life. it was george screaming for his life. >> prosecutors questioned him. >> you never had heard george zimmerman crying out for help before, had you? >> not the way it did that year. >> associate medical examiner dr. bao said trayvon martin had been alive one to ten minutes after the shooting. he changed his opinion about that and also said martin may or may not have been affected by some marijuana found in his system

all eyes were on jahvaris.nd i've got to tell you, he was so eloquent, he was so elegant. the thought or the suggestion that this mother raised a thug in trayvon martin, i think, was dispelled. i think trayvon martin was put squarely in the courtroom on the witness stand as a reflection of his brother. so in my view, jahvaris fulton was sort of the star witness for the prosecution and the one person on the martin family that this jury was really engaged with. >> and a little bit of a surprise for the family, danny, because it seemed they changed tact and went after his credibility more than they expected to early on. but the questionable tactic and the question i put to you is the cross-examination of the mother. it has been criticized -- and i'm not one who gets into stylistic criticisms. for us here, it's about the goals of laying out the issues, but strategically, do you think it affected the case, or do you think the defense counsel is doing what he had to? >> absolutely. o'mara is doing -- he runs a far gr

on the stand right now is jahvaris fulton--treyvon martin is a brother.'s listen in to this morning's testimony. >> this is not a legal basis. for impeachment purposes it may not be played because his answer is the same as it was then. this is not impeachment. his, not remember the question as a collateral matter. this is the question that matters. your objection is sustained. >> it would come invest, it will be marked as double. >> i hear the locksmith's are here so let's take a brief recess. >> this is a it live look at the george zimmerman trial. his mother, took the stand and also his brother. what is really a question this morning is this audio tape that was played and the reason, they want to identify the screen on the 911 call that was made. it is critical because it may determine who was the aggressor during the fight between treyvon martin and george zimmerman. we will have more detail as it develops. >> >> n-s-a leaker edward snowden's exact whereabouts are still unknown and it seems he may be gaining fans in iceland. yesterday some icelandic la

jahvaris fulton, i really want it to be him, i'm not sure.you have miss fulton who, though she did testify that is her son's voice, you have to take it in context. you have to understand reasonably why she would say that, how she would say that. quite honestly also the circumstances under which it was done. that piece of evidence in and of itself, a mom saying it has to be my son who passed away, that has to be his voice, because any other possibility means my son caused his own death, you could consider as evidence. however, you have to take it in context. you have to take it in the reality of the other undeniable circumstances that existed that night. and here's what existed that night in the evidence that you have to consider. my client's immediate statement to those who listened to him that he was screaming for help before he knew that that was being recorded. you can have an argument that he's this cop wannabe who would know it's going to be recorded. but the reality is, the first person on the scene he told it to, the second person on t

. >> rev, i want to also talk about jahvaris fulton, trayvon's brother who also took the stand today. at first he said he wasn't sure it was his brother's voice on the call and today he said he was initially in denial about his brother's death. what did you make of that? >> i thought it was something that was logical because having throughout my civil rights work met a lot of families that go through trauma and different variations, people can understand that, and i think he explained it well. what i thought was interesting is that with attorney o'mara saying to the mother, well, you wanted to make it look like trayvon. well, it was the opposite with the brother. so are you saying the brother wouldn't have loved his brother as much much as the mother loved the son? so you almost had two opposing theories between the mother and the brother, which i think was -- if i was on the jury, i would say, well, one kind of cancels out the other. doesn't it? if it was the family wanting to make it va von, then why didn't his brother have the same view of his mother? you can only conclude that the

. >> just a short while later we heard from trayvon martin's brother, older brother jahvaris, talking when he heard the 911 tapes. >> do you recognize any voices on that tape? >> yes. >> whose voice do you recognize? >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> what parts of the recording do you recognize as your brother's voice? >> the yelling and the screaming. >> so i'm back with nbc analyst lisa bloom, as well as here in studio gilani cobb following this trial for "the new yorker" and lisa, are you surprised by the brevity of trayvon martin's mother or was that pretty much all we could expect to get from her under the circumstances? >> i think that before her testimony, the lawyers at a side bar were arguing about the scope of her testimony and how much could come in and the judge made a ruling on that, that limited it to what we heard. i know that she's subject to recall. we may hear more from her depending on evidence that's gathered from the evidence locker where everybody is looking for the key. we'll stay tuned for that. i would have also expected to hear more what we call foundat

even when jahvaris says he thinks it might have been his brother but he wasn't sure. we have to look at the other evidence, the injuries to george, the forensics that support the fact that george is the one attacked. the fact that trayvon martin had no injuries but for the gunshot wound. i think that they're going to tyke it all sort of holistically or in context and we will be able to realize it was george screaming for help. >> back to sybrina fulton, mark, this morning and the way in which you cross-examined her. i talked to multiple lawyers today, and in describing the way in which you proceeded, they called it a rookie mistake, they never would have gone there, the link, the questioning. let's roll some of it. >> you certainly hope as a mom, you certainly hope that your son, trayvon martin, would not have done anything that would have led to his own death, correct? >> what i hope for is that this would have never happened and he would still be here. that's my hope. >> absolutely. and now dealing with the reality that he's no longer here, it's certainly your hope

. >> jahvaris, tell me what you want the world to know about your brother. >> i would just like to telle was responsible for what happened to him that night and that he wasn't on trial. zimmerman was. >> what do you want to see as a result of this? >> i would like to see our foundation raise awareness about profili profiling, because we shouldn't have to, but there is a certain way boys like me and young men have to conduct themselves in public so that, you know, we're not -- >> deemed suspicious. >> yeah. >> jahvaris fulton speaking with our own sunny hostin, an impressive, young man. stay with us. we're going to play president obama's remarks on race in their entirety. that's coming up in our next hour. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's a golden opportunity to discover a hybrid from the luxury car company that understands that one type of hybrid isn't right for everyone. come to the lexus golden opportunity sales event and choose from one of five lexus hybrids that's right for you, including the lexus es and ct hybrids. ♪ this is the pursuit of perfection. chantix... it's a non-nicotine pill.

. >> the jury also heard testimony from trayvon martin's older brother, jahvaris fulton, about who mightave been screaming on that 911 call. but for the rest of the afternoon, both sides questioned the medical examiner who performed the autopsy on trayvon martin at one point the medical examiner said trayvon martin experienced pain after the gunshot and might have lived one to ten minutes after he was shot in the heart. >> it is my opinion that he was still alive, he was still in pain, he was still suffering, from my experience, another autopsy we did three weeks ago, i don't believe he can move after shot. >> trayvon martin's family was in the gallery today but trayvon's mother was noticeably absent during the part of the medical examiner's testimony that included detail autopsy photographs. let's go back to criminal defense attorney john burris, joy reid of the grio and msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom. great to have all of you with us. it's been a very eventful day. let's go back to the testimony of sybrina fulton. how effective was she? >>. >> she was character evidence for your oh son

i also want to say that i wouldn't be surprised if they called trayvon martin's brother, jahvaris fultone is very elegant. he looks a lot like trayvon martin. he's very well spoken. i think he would actually be a wonderful witness for the state. so i wouldn't be surprised if he would be called. >> you think that's why he would be called, to identify his brother's voice? >> absolutely. because when i interviewed him, he talked about how close they were and how they grew up together. they even shared a room. so if anyone understands or recalls his voice, it would be his brother. if you have his mother and brother saying the same thing, you get the benefit of having the mother and bropter who looks like trayvon martin who goes to college, who looks like your everyday guy, that would carry a lot of weight with this jury. >> we'll have more on the trial ahead. i want to get the panel's take on what the prosecution needs to do. and the breaking news in egypt. the country a powder keg tonight after the coup to depose the president. the situation is extremely fluid. an update ahead. in djibouti,

how is jahvaris doing? trayvon's brother. >> he watches attention to what we say and what we do and how we react, so he's doing well. he is coming along. he is taking it one day at a time. he is remaining prayerful and, you know, he is surrounded by family and friends. >> did you watch the attorneys after the verdict, their press statements, the defense attorneys when they held a press conference? >> yes. >> what was your reaction to what they had to say? >> i didn't -- i haven't watched any of the press releases. i just couldn't get myself in front of the tv to see what they had to say. i just felt that as a father who had lost his child, i felt that his life had been made a mockery of, so i couldn't just stand in front of the tv and watch them parade, so to speak, on national television. >> why do you feel that trayvon's life was made a mockery of? >> i just didn't feel as though the jurors -- not all of the sanford police or some of the sanford police department didn't take this serious at all and i just

the brother, jahvaris fulton. he didn't really know.hink he told you in his testimony when he was talking to the nbc affiliate, it could have been him. not certain. might have been. i think it was. and now he is more certain. again, i'm okay with that. i'm okay with people wanting to hear what they want to hear. dr. bao, that was the state's decision to bring him before you as a medical examiner. not really their decision. he was the one who did the autopsy. so although there was some interaction there that might have best been just redone, the reality is the only injuries were the injuries that we know about on trayvon martin and that the wet clothes should not have been -- should not have been bagged in paper and that the hands should have been bagged and we will talk about the hands in a little bit. this witness told you that it was her son as i'm sure you expected before she ever got on the stand. mrs. zimmerman. mesa, sitting at a computer and listening and hearing in the baou

martin's older brother - jahvaris fulton - also testified the screams were from his brother. but in cross examination, fulton was put on the spot for once telling a reporter he "wasn't positive" about who was screaming, only to later conclude it was trayvon martin. for most of day 9 - jurors listened to the medical examiner who did the autopsy on martin. >>"i believe he was alive for one to 10 minutes after he was shot." but when challenged by the defense - dr. shiping bao admitted he only recently reached that opinion. just three weeks earlier, he said he thought martin was alive only 1 to 3 minutes after the shooting. defense attorneys also pointed out how bao's team may have mishandled, and even damaged some evidence. when asked to recall specifics about the autopsy - there was this. >>"i do not have any recall. i do not have any memory of the day of autopsy." attorney mark o'mara asked the judge to acquit his client, after the state rested its case, arguing prosecutors had not proven second-degree murder. judge debra nelson denied that motion. the motion for judgment of >

today's rally in new york city will be trayvon martin's mother sybrina fulton and her surviving son jahvaris today's protest at one police plaza. there is no telling how big the crowds will be today but one bit of good news is that the weather is dramatically cooler here in one caveat, after an hour after the rally is due to start at noon eastern time, the rain is expected to come down in new york city and that could affect turnout. now i turn to my colleague, athina jones with another protest in the nation's capital, washington, d.c. >> good morning. we are here outside the federal courthouse in washington, d.c. the rally here isn't set to begin for another four hours. i should mention that it looks like it could rain here. we don't know what kind of impact that will have on turnout but, of course, people are gathering here as part of this plan across a hundred cities in the country. there are other rallies going on in wshashington, d.c. but other rallies in support of trayvon martin's family. we stand by here waiting for this rally here to get under way. back to you guys. >> thank you. sti

jahvaris martin said he was certain the pleas for help were from his brother trayvon. and zimmerman's uncle said he felt it was george zimmer man. >> i felt it was george. >> reporter: much of friday's testimony centered on the autopsy of trayvon martin. though shot in the heart, the doctor said it was possible the teen didn't die immediately. >> it is my opinion that he was still alive. he was still in pain. he was still in suffering. >> reporter: bao said trayvon's only other injury was a small abrasion to a finger which she called shuruperficial. there were procedural missteps and it didn't help the prosecution when the medical examiner repeatedly said he had no memory at all of martin's autopsy. >> i do not remember anything. >> reporter: the day's final drama came as the prosecution announced it was ready to rest. the defense immediately asked the judge to dismiss the case arguing the state had not proven second-degree murder. judge debra nelson listened carefully then gave her answer, motion denied. the defense will carry on monday morning starting at 9:00 a.m. e

jahvaris fullson, the brother, he -- fulton, he really didn't know. i think he told you when he was talking to the nbc affiliate, it could have been him, not certain, might have been, i think it was. now he's more certain. well, again, i'm okay with that. i'm okay with people wanting to hear what they want to hear. dr. bao, that was the state's decision to bring him before you as the medical examiner. really actually a decision, he was the one who did the autopsy. is although there was some -- so although there was some interaction there that might have been best been redone, the reality was the injuries were the only injuries we know about on trayvon martin and that the wet clothes should not have been, should not have been bagged in paper and that the hands should have been bagged, and we'll talk about the hands in a little bit. ms. zimmerman told you that it was her son as, i'm sure, you expected before she ever got on the stand. jorge mesa, interesting because that was unplanned by him, it would seem, if you believe his testimony sitting at a comp

in new york, trayvon martin's mother sybrina fulton, and brother jahvaris, appeared this afternoon.red there. >> not only do i vow to you to do what i can for trayvon martin, i promise you i'm going to work hard for your children as well because it's important. >> then in miami, trayvon's father, tracy martin, spoke about his son at a rally. >> my message this morning is simple. i'd like the world to know that trayvon was my son. he was a loved child. he did nothing wrong. and we're not going to let them persecute him the way that they have. >> let's take you to new york live. michelle franzen was there for the rally watching what's happening there. michelle, you also had an opportunity to speak to some of the people that were there at the rally. what did you hear? >> reporter: we heard a lot of different stories, a lot of personal accounts, and a lot of uplifting sort of messages that they wanted to be the ones that were also here to help, to show support for trayvon's mom, to show support for others who fought this battle and lost this week in their verdict. they say this is a cal

tracy martin and sybrina fulton are trayvon martin's parents, jahvaris fulton is his brother.rybody. we haven't heard. it's five days now since the verdict, what's your reaction? >> still shocked, still in disbelief. we felt in our hearts that we were going to get a conviction. we thought that the killer of our unarmed child was going to be convicted of the crime that he committed. >> you say shocked and disbelief. miss fulton, reasonable doubt is something that we're hearing from some of the jurors. do you understand how they might have found reasonable doubt? >> i don't understand if they were looking at it from trayvon's point of view because he was a teenager. he was scared. he did run. as far as if he ran home or not, if somebody was chasing me, i don't think i would run home and bring them to my house. >> we have heard now from juror b-37, and she has told us some things about what went on in the deliberation room and what they were thinking in the trial. she was asked if she thought that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon, she said no. she was asked if she thoug