then came jahvaris fulton, trayvon martin's older brother, student at fiu, florida international university down here. he testified he also recognized the voice in one of those 911 calls as that of his brother's, but he also acknowledged he previously told a reporter here in florida that he couldn't be sure, that he wasn't sure that it was his brother's. then after those two family members testified, dr. shipling bao, that's the medical xanler who you will be hearing from again in a few moments. that's where they left off, his cross examination. he basically testified he started by telling us that trayvon martin was 5'11", 158 pounds. he was shot by a single gunshot wound to the chest. he also testified that trayvon martin was alive somewhere between one and ten minutes after that initial shot. he went on to say that there were no injuries to trayvon martin's right hand. again, keep in mind sybrina fulton testified just an hour or two earlier that her son was right-handed, testified dr. bao said no injuries to the right hand, also said that no blood was found on either of the two hands. he

on the stand right now is jahvaris fulton--treyvon martin is a brother.'s listen in to this morning's testimony. >> this is not a legal basis. for impeachment purposes it may not be played because his answer is the same as it was then. this is not impeachment. his, not remember the question as a collateral matter. this is the question that matters. your objection is sustained. >> it would come invest, it will be marked as double. >> i hear the locksmith's are here so let's take a brief recess. >> this is a it live look at the george zimmerman trial. his mother, took the stand and also his brother. what is really a question this morning is this audio tape that was played and the reason, they want to identify the screen on the 911 call that was made. it is critical because it may determine who was the aggressor during the fight between treyvon martin and george zimmerman. we will have more detail as it develops. >> >> n-s-a leaker edward snowden's exact whereabouts are still unknown and it seems he may be gaining fans in iceland. yesterday some icelandic la

her testimony in court, also looking for inconsistencies and doubt in what jahvaris fulton says. it will be interesting to see what they ask her. >> since her son died she's been very vocal. she's done a lot of public speaking. she's been on television shows, addressed town halls on violence and racial healing. she campaigned against florida's stand your ground law and she's used to being in the public eye. >> she is. i want to read something to you. she sent out a tweet earlier basically asking for strength to move forward today. you can tell this is something she's been getting ready for, preparing for. sent out this tweet this morning. this ises something she's been trying to prepare herself for to testify. really speaking on behalf of her son. >> she actually -- the new york times interviewed her before trial. i want to read a quote out of the new york times article. she was asked if she could forgive george zimmerman. this is how she answered the question. quote, the spiritual side of me knowses i have to forgive him so i don't block my blessings. am i ready now? i am not. i

. >> reporter: martin's older brother, jahvaris fulton, also testified the screams were from his brother, but in cross-examination, fulton was put on the spot for once telling a reporter he wasn't positive about who was screaming, only later to conclude it was trayvon martin. for most of day nine, jurors listened to the medical examiner who did the autopsy on martin. >> i believe he was alive for one to ten minutes after he was shot. >> reporter: but when challenged by the defense, the doctor admitted he only recently reached that opinion. just three weeks earlier, he said he thought martin was alive only one to three minutes after the shooting. defense attorneys also pointed out how bao's team may have mishandled and even damaged some evidence. when asked to recall specifics about the autopsy, there was this. >> i do not have any recall. i do not have any memory of the day of autopsy. >> reporter: attorney mark o'mara asked the judge to acquit his client after the state's case, arguing prosecutors had not proved second degree murder. judge deborah nelson denied that motion. >> motion fo

jahvaris fulton, i really want it to be him, i'm not sure. ou have miss fulton who, though she did testify that is her son's voice, you have to take it in context. you have to understand reasonably why she would say that, how she would say that. quite honestly also the circumstances under which it was done. that piece of evidence in and of itself, a mom saying it has to be my son who passed away, that has to be his voice, because any other possibility means my son caused his own death, you could consider as evidence. however, you have to take it in context. you have to take it in the reality of the other undeniable circumstances that existed that night. and here's what existed that night in the evidence that you have to consider. my client's immediate statement to those who listened to him that he was screaming for help before he knew that that was being recorded. you can have an argument that he's this cop wannabe who would know it's going to be recorded. but the reality is, the first person on the scene he told it to, the second person on th

you looked at evidence in the light most favorable to the state you have equivocal statements, jahvaris fultonsays i'm not sure, and then miss fulton, who, though she did testify that is her son's voice, you have to take it in context. you have to understand reasonably why she would say that, how she would say that and the circumstances under which it was done. that piece of evidence in and of itself, mom saying this has to be my son, has to be my son, nice other possibility means he caused his own death. you could consider that as evidence, however you have to tike it in cop text and take in the reality of the other up deniable circumstances that existed that night. and here's what existed that night. my client's immediate statements to those who listened to him said he was screaming for help before he knew that was being recorded. we can have an argument he is a cop wannabe who would know that will woo be recorded but the reality is the first person on the scene he told it to, the second person on the keen he told it to the officer. manalo and the officer. and has undeniable injuries that ev

. >> rev, i want to also talk about jahvaris fulton, trayvon's brother who also took the stand today. at first he said he wasn't sure it was his brother's voice on the call and today he said he was initially in denial about his brother's death. what did you make of that? >> i thought it was something that was logical because having throughout my civil rights work met a lot of families that go through trauma and different variations, people can understand that, and i think he explained it well. what i thought was interesting is that with attorney o'mara saying to the mother, well, you wanted to make it look like trayvon. well, it was the opposite with the brother. so are you saying the brother wouldn't have loved his brother as much much as the mother loved the son? so you almost had two opposing theories between the mother and the brother, which i think was -- if i was on the jury, i would say, well, one kind of cancels out the other. doesn't it? if it was the family wanting to make it va von, then why didn't his brother have the same view of his mother? you can only conclude that the

i also want to say that i wouldn't be surprised if they called trayvon martin's brother, jahvaris fultone is very elegant. he looks a lot like trayvon martin. he's very well spoken. i think he would actually be a wonderful witness for the state. so i wouldn't be surprised if he would be called. >> you think that's why he would be called, to identify his brother's voice? >> absolutely. because when i interviewed him, he talked about how close they were and how they grew up together. they even shared a room. so if anyone understands or recalls his voice, it would be his brother. if you have his mother and brother saying the same thing, you get the benefit of having the mother and bropter who looks like trayvon martin who goes to college, who looks like your everyday guy, that would carry a lot of weight with this jury. >> we'll have more on the trial ahead. i want to get the panel's take on what the prosecution needs to do. and the breaking news in egypt. the country a powder keg tonight after the coup to depose the president. the situation is extremely fluid. an update ahead. in djibouti,

. >> the jury also heard testimony from trayvon martin's older brother, jahvaris fulton, about who mightave been screaming on that 911 call. but for the rest of the afternoon, both sides questioned the medical examiner who performed the autopsy on trayvon martin at one point the medical examiner said trayvon martin experienced pain after the gunshot and might have lived one to ten minutes after he was shot in the heart. >> it is my opinion that he was still alive, he was still in pain, he was still suffering, from my experience, another autopsy we did three weeks ago, i don't believe he can move after shot. >> trayvon martin's family was in the gallery today but trayvon's mother was noticeably absent during the part of the medical examiner's testimony that included detail autopsy photographs. let's go back to criminal defense attorney john burris, joy reid of the grio and msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom. great to have all of you with us. it's been a very eventful day. let's go back to the testimony of sybrina fulton. how effective was she? >>. >> she was character evidence for your oh son

the brother, jahvaris fulton. he didn't really know.hink he told you in his testimony when he was talking to the nbc affiliate, it could have been him. not certain. might have been. i think it was. and now he is more certain. again, i'm okay with that. i'm okay with people wanting to hear what they want to hear. dr. bao, that was the state's decision to bring him before you as a medical examiner. not really their decision. he was the one who did the autopsy. so although there was some interaction there that might have best been just redone, the reality is the only injuries were the injuries that we know about on trayvon martin and that the wet clothes should not have been -- should not have been bagged in paper and that the hands should have been bagged and we will talk about the hands in a little bit. this witness told you that it was her son as i'm sure you expected before she ever got on the stand. mrs. zimmerman. mesa, sitting at a computer and listening and hearing in the baou

martin's older brother - jahvaris fulton - also testified the screams were from his brother. but in cross examination, fulton was put on the spot for once telling a reporter he "wasn't positive" about who was screaming, only to later conclude it was trayvon martin. for most of day 9 - jurors listened to the medical examiner who did the autopsy on martin. >>"i believe he was alive for one to 10 minutes after he was shot." but when challenged by the defense - dr. shiping bao admitted he only recently reached that opinion. just three weeks earlier, he said he thought martin was alive only 1 to 3 minutes after the shooting. defense attorneys also pointed out how bao's team may have mishandled, and even damaged some evidence. when asked to recall specifics about the autopsy - there was this. >>"i do not have any recall. i do not have any memory of the day of autopsy." attorney mark o'mara asked the judge to acquit his client, after the state rested its case, arguing prosecutors had not proven second-degree murder. judge debra nelson denied that motion. the motion for judgment of >>

rally in new york city will be sybrina fulton, trayvon manner's mother, and her surviving son jahvaris fultonrpton and is expected to lead today's rally in new york city at one police plaza. due to start at noon eastern time. really no telling how big turnout will be here in new york city. but one bit of good news, it is, dare i say, a beautiful morning here in new york city. about ten degrees cooler than yesterday. that is a big relief, but one caveat, just an hour after the rally is due to start in new york, the rain is expected to fall and that could affect turnout here in the city. i turn now to athena jones in washington, d.c. >> reporter: hi there. the rally here in washington outside the federal courthouse is set to get under way at about noon. they are setting up microphone speakers. we had a chance to speak to one of the rally organizers who said this will be a peaceful rally and not an angry protest. folks are disappointed in the verdict of george zimmerman' want the justice department to bring federal charges against george zimmerman. they are contributing this flyer to people that

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because, again, as we saw with jahvaris fulton, there had to be a sidebar to discuss the testimony and attorneys are trying to take care of that on the front end. based on the fact that she was dismissed because of the issue with the evidence locker, we are assuming that at some point during this testimony, there will be some evidence presented to sybrina fulton for her to comment on, so that may be what this sidebar is about, the evidence that will be presented and what she will and will not be allowed to testify to, with regards to that evidence. we should also note here, typically, judge nelson has given the jury a break in the morning. because there was that 30 minute recess for the issue to get the locker open, we don't expect there will be a morning break today as well. it looks like -- it looks like the sidebar is breaking up at this point. >> all right, craig. i will ask you to stand by. let's take a quick break on msnbc. we'll be back with much more right after this. the cream smooths the look of lids... softens the look of lines. the serum instantly thickens the look of lashe

tracy martin and sybrina fulton are trayvon martin's parents, jahvaris fulton is his brother.rybody. we haven't heard. it's five days now since the verdict, what's your reaction? >> still shocked, still in disbelief. we felt in our hearts that we were going to get a conviction. we thought that the killer of our unarmed child was going to be convicted of the crime that he committed. >> you say shocked and disbelief. miss fulton, reasonable doubt is something that we're hearing from some of the jurors. do you understand how they might have found reasonable doubt? >> i don't understand if they were looking at it from trayvon's point of view because he was a teenager. he was scared. he did run. as far as if he ran home or not, if somebody was chasing me, i don't think i would run home and bring them to my house. >> we have heard now from juror b-37, and she has told us some things about what went on in the deliberation room and what they were thinking in the trial. she was asked if she thought that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon, she said no. she was asked if she thoug

jahvaris fullson, the brother, he -- fulton, he really didn't know. i think he told you when he was talking to the nbc affiliate, it could have been him, not certain, might have been, i think it was. now he's more certain. well, again, i'm okay with that. i'm okay with people wanting to hear what they want to hear. dr. bao, that was the state's decision to bring him before you as the medical examiner. really actually a decision, he was the one who did the autopsy. is although there was some -- so although there was some interaction there that might have been best been redone, the reality was the injuries were the only injuries we know about on trayvon martin and that the wet clothes should not have been, should not have been bagged in paper and that the hands should have been bagged, and we'll talk about the hands in a little bit. ms. zimmerman told you that it was her son as, i'm sure, you expected before she ever got on the stand. jorge mesa, interesting because that was unplanned by him, it would seem, if you believe his testimony sitting at a comp

in new york, trayvon martin's mother sybrina fulton, and brother jahvaris, appeared this afternoon.red there. >> not only do i vow to you to do what i can for trayvon martin, i promise you i'm going to work hard for your children as well because it's important. >> then in miami, trayvon's father, tracy martin, spoke about his son at a rally. >> my message this morning is simple. i'd like the world to know that trayvon was my son. he was a loved child. he did nothing wrong. and we're not going to let them persecute him the way that they have. >> let's take you to new york live. michelle franzen was there for the rally watching what's happening there. michelle, you also had an opportunity to speak to some of the people that were there at the rally. what did you hear? >> reporter: we heard a lot of different stories, a lot of personal accounts, and a lot of uplifting sort of messages that they wanted to be the ones that were also here to help, to show support for trayvon's mom, to show support for others who fought this battle and lost this week in their verdict. they say this is a cal