. >> there is no doubt about it with jake arieta starting and all that. they needed to do that and if you look what he did, he used 10 different starters to come up with five, 31 relievers pitched. so if you have have an open competition you have that and they believe so because it is strength in numbers it is not just let's take that guy, it is somebody that earned their way on the team. >> well you that have to pitch better and one thing they did is they scored runs -- >> -- oh, they -- >> -- lose, and well you know nolan ryan will be in left field and you know -- >> -they -- >> -- day -- >> -- big question, there is always that potential versus production, chris davis has tremendous home run power and he has home run power to all fields but the key with davis is will he make enough contact -- >> uh-huh -- >> -- ballpark, he has that tremendous raw power that you can't teach especially, as does nolan and with nolan really intriguing in the lead off spot what buck showalter is doing with him. he really has a tremendous batting eye, you might argue he has