is we have gone nowhere with this whole poverty discussion dating back to when republicans like jake kemp were talking about it and john edwards, when he ran for president. and things are not getting better. so i think unfortunately the lottery winner upset some people but the president is saying come on let's get bipartisan agreement and move something forward. >> the lottery comment comes in the context of a lot of other comments. you put them in context and it shows he doesn't understand how this country was built. >> he's hostile to free markets, to entrepreneurships. he thinks if you uksucceed in business it's because you exploit people. and everything like that. he has no conception on how you get new things for people. >> the entrepreneur didn't start out life on third base. he or she got there fighting and working hard to build their businesses. two-thirds of the jobs in the country are created by entrepreneurs and small businesses. but this president is penalizing work. he basically has -- it's not a profile in courage to flip the switch on $7 trillion in spending which the presi