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select which podcast you'd like to download and listen to "after words" while you travel. >> host: so, jake, you talk about this underworld in buffalo and going up to bangor, maine, and dealing with that sort of set of characters. then you also talk about another pillar of this debt collection world which is las vegas. , and you went there to do information there and -- investigation there and discover new things there. what was that like? >> guest: right. so i wanted to see how brandon wilson was buying this debt. and if you remember, brandon is the former armed robber who works for aaron and is finding these deals on paper. and those deals are key to making the profit margin. so in the course of talking to brandon about where he, you know, hunted or searched for paper, he said las vegas. every february there's a big debt buyers' convention, and i go out there and hunt for deals. so i asked him, can i tag along? he said, sure. so in february 201 i flew out to vegas and spent several days with brandon as he was on the prowl for these deals. he wanted to get a few called these buckets of deb