. >> jake sherman, jump in. >> yeah, i just got a text message from a senior white house aide who notes that peter navarro went rogue and he bypassed the op ed approval process in writing in the nation's largest paper, "usa

jake sherman, senior writer politico, coauthor of politico's playbook, joins me now. what have you been hearing, jake, from the folks that have reached out to you after you sort of put out this call? >> a few things, chris. number one, across the capital, we know -- not from sources, because we see it with our own eyes. we work at the capitol as reporters, congressional reporters. republican members of congresses don't wear masks as frequently as democratic members. it's a statement of reality. i've gotten emails across the capitol. premorbidity, who are forced, heavily encouraged, let's say to, go into the office during this pandemic and who are chided for wearing masks. you just had before our edition of playbook p.m. this afternoon, we talked about robert lighthizer, the u.s. representative, also a republican in the president's administration traveling back and forth to palm beach, not wearing masks in the office. and his staff feels like they need to come in. it might not be said directly, but that's the feeling they get. and, chris, here's the important point to k

jake sherman, senior writer at politico, co-author of "playbook" joins me now. at have you been hearing, jake, from the folks who reached out to you after you sort of put out this call? >> a few things, chris. number one, across the capitol, we know, not from sources, because we see it with our own eyes because we work in the capitol as reporters, congressional reporters, that republican members of congress don't wear masks as frequently as democratic members. not a partisan statement. it's a statement of reality. i've gotten emails from across the capitol, people with co-morbidities, pre-existing conditions, and other words, that are heavily encouraged, let's say, to go into the office during this pandemic, and who are chided for wearing masks. you just had before our addition of "playbook pm," our afternoon edition this afternoon, where we talked about robert lighthizer, the u.s. trade representative, also a republican in the president's administration, who's traveling back and forth to palm beach, not wearing masks in the office, and his staff feels like they

and then jake sherman, the reporter, got this e-mail from a gohmert aide. quote, jake, thank you for letting aerooffice no gohmert tested positive for the coronavirus. when you write your story can you write the fact louie requires full staff to be in the office including three interns so that we can be an example to america how to open up safely. when probing the office you might want to ask how often were people berated for wearing masks. after publishing that e-mail jake sherman says he got, quote, a flood of e-mails from republican staffers who say they too are being forced to come to the hill without a mask now. it's bad enough elected officials like louie gohmert are undermining public health messaging on masks. it's bad enough they're putting people around them at risk by not wearing masks. it's bad enough they're insisting lawmakers and staff come to work in person when it's not necessary. but to force your staff to come to work without a mask is on a different level. today in the wake of louie gohmert's covid diagnosis house speaker nancy pelosi an

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jake sherman, carol lee, dr.ipi roy, stick around with us, if you can, i know you can because we asked you ahead of time. i want to go to new jersey's governor phil murphy. yesterday he called senate republicans' working draft on a coronavirus relief bill that includes no new funding for state and local governments a, quote, slap in the face. governor murphy, thank you for joining us. again, still no funding for stale and local governments. what is that going to mean for new jersey? >> oh, it's a disaster, katy. good to be on with you, but it's a disaster, it's completely irresponsible. you've got a leader on the republican side in the senate who hasn't balanced a budget in at least 35 years, and it shows. we can't print money. it's devastating. for new jersey we think it's a $20 billion price tag. you've got expenses, not surprisingly, particularly in health care and other areas, that are exploding. you've got revenues that have fallen off a cliff. and by the way, it's long past the argument that it's legacy sta

jake sherman, i'm curious about sort of the view on capitol hill among republicans in particular.ecause i feel like a lot of times the republican party that is left on capitol hill, if anybody speaks for them at times, it is the "wall street journal" editorial board page and i thought it was fascinating that the "wall street journal" said have you thought about quitting. let me read what they wrote. it is not to suggest that the november election will be rigged as mr. trump asserts but if he believes that he should reconsider his participation and let someone run who isn't looking for an excuse to blame for defeat. the "wall street journal" editorial board, it is more of a senate republican party, it speaks more for that wing of the party and not trump. are they speaking for that wing? >> well, you know, chuck, they used to call it the paul street journal for paul ryan so you could tell where they used to be aligned. the wall street journal editorial board has taken a series of positions recently that do reflect the broad consensus on capitol hill. they took a position against the

and before we go to break, jake sherman, you bring us every day the politico morning consult poll.re you looking at today? >> very interesting. a lot of very interesting dynamics. number one is that not only is trump unpopular -- his approval rating is sinking, people think the country's on the wrong track, but 65% of respondents believe that his policies are wrong when it comes to cutting funding for schools that don't open. so again, not only is the rhetoric somewhat bizarre and off kilter, but then his policies that he's pushing in the middle of this pandemic are becoming less and less popular as time goes on. so i mean, as you see on the screen right there, those are stunning numbers for a proposal that the president keeps on repeating and is making a centerpiece of his proposals at the moment. >> all right, jake sherman. thank you very much. walter isaacson, thank you as well. great to see you. >>> and still ahead on "morning joe," coronavirus infections are surging across the country, but hospitals are being asked to stop sending their data to the cdc? starting today, it will

after "politico"'s jake sherman broke that story, congressman gohmert told his staff in person in a room in the office building at the capital that he had just tested positive for the virus. yes, in person inside. he got his staff together to tell them he presently had coronavirus. jake sherman then got an e-mail from a member of gohmert's staff revealing that he, quote, requires full staff to be in the office, including three interns, so that we could be an example to america on how to open up safety, also suggesting that sherman ask how often people were berated for wearings macks. sherman started receiving a flood of e-mails from republican staffers who say they too are being forced to come to the hill without a mask. now the fall-out begins when a member of congress announced he is going to self-quarantine, 77-year-old who was seated next to him on a flight yesterday. from texas. everybody at that hearing yesterday will need to get tested. attorney general bill barr was tested today but was reportedly negative. let's remember that the testing five months into the pandemic is so screw

reported on the louie gohmert positive test, and it seems as if his office, your partner in crime, jake sherman, got -- walk us through that. it seems as if his office is in an i told you so moment themselves, a little bit of a revolt on their boss, congressman gohmert? >> yeah, you rarely see these behind the scenes staffer fights with their bosses come out in public, and what happened today is, jake sherman, who i write playbook with, we reported on louie gohmert testing positive, and we had a hard time getting in touch with this chief of staff, with others, to talk about what was happening, and frustrated staff members emailed jake and said, listen, i hope when you report this, that you also report that mr. gohmert has made all of us, including three interns, come into the office every single day, and that when people who do wear masks, they are often looked down upon or told not to. so you kind of just see this culture war that shannon was talking about playing out in real time in a congressional office, and i think there's just a lot of frustration because, as you know and a lot of people

also joins us jake sherman, an msnbc correspondent. jake, i've been following everything you've been reported and how evndangered republican staffers feel about them bringing everyone in the offices and not mandating mask wearing and shaming people that wear them. can you tell us about that. >> we've seen this on the house floor. this is not picking on republicans. we've watched the floor. everyone in the senate wears a mask with exception of rand paul because he's had it. louis gommert who found out he had a virus yesterday walked around without a mask for weeks at a time. we've seen this with our own eyes. he went to his office and announced he had the virus to his staff, we got emails from people on his staff, saying they were afraid with the policies he had in place. i've been covering congress for a long time, more than a decade. i've never seen the discomfort with the protocols in place on capitol hill. it's astounding the volume of incoming i'm getting about how people feel the building is broken. the entire complex is under cont

we had jake sherman, a reporter on capitol hill on earlier in the show.here is a short-term extension agreed to this week for that $600 insurance boost while this is figured out. is that something you'd be open to, extend it short-term, unemployment insurance, and try to work out the other issues over a longer period of time? >> the main thing i'm open to is that people should not have to suffer. so whatever it is going to take for us to get a final bill out of the senate. you know, we really have to ask the question, why has it taken the senate two months. that bill has been sitting over there passed out of the house for a very long time. the idea they would let people get to the brink of suffering where they run out of money and might face eviction is just shameful. if we need to do something temporarily so people don't have to go a week without any money, then fine. but it really is unconscionable. there's no reason for this. they had all of this time. they weren't even in session. they could have been working over there. >> what we're hearing from man

after reporting the news of gohmert's positive test, jake sherman tweeted the out, jake, thank you for letting us know louie tested positive. when you write your story, can you include the fact that louie requires full staff to be in the office including three interns so we could be an example to america on how to open up safely. when probing the office, you might want to ask how often people were berated for wearing masks. joining me now for the "washington examiner," david mark. wow, that's an interesting email to be sharing to say the least, that folks were possibly berated in gohmert's office for actually wearing masks and now, in fact, we see he has tested positive. so talk me through, david. by the way, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> talk me through the reaction that you are hearing over congressman gohmert's testing positive for covid, and now you have the house speaker and her mandatory face mask rule. >> right. this is all kind of the logical conclusion of these different rules and reactions we've had up on capitol hill. there have been a swath of lawmakers -- not a

and that's not necessarily in alignment with the interests of the united states. >> jake sherman, givetest, then, on capitol hill, when it comes to the coronavirus and the president's handling of it and some sort of stimulus that may get to the american people, in light of the economic struggles that they will be facing. >> well, mika, we're in the middle of a massive negotiation over what is expected to be at least $1 trillion of stimulus for coronavirus at some point in the next month or six weeks. i mean, the administration had hoped to finish it by friday, but the two sides are nowhere. they're haggling over unemployment insurance, over money for schools, state and local money. i mean, there's almost no agreement on anything at this point, and it's wednesday, and enhanced unemployment benefits end on friday, and it seems like they're going to end. it seems like these benefits, $600 a month extra from the federal government -- those payments are going to stop in the middle of what is the worst public health crisis in our world's history. so, i would expect over the next couple of we

i want to get to jake sherman real quick. morning you bring us the politico "morning consult" poll. what are you seeing today? >> yeah, this is perhaps a nice cota to that conversation. the democrats enjoy at the moment a ten-point generic ballot advantage over republicans. and joe biden has pulled basically equal, plus or minus one point, with donald trump on economy and jobs, which, frankly, is illustrative of perhaps the congress' focus on some peripheral issues and donald trump's focus on peripheral issues like, you know, congratulating ghislaine maxwell and things like that. and one more important note, as donald trump is beginning to hold coronavirus briefings again. he might be swayed by polls, since more than half of all voters that we polled think mask mandates and masks in public are an important and acceptable thing, including, by the way, 58% of republicans. so again, helps kind of bring alive some of those policy decisions that donald trump is making and some of the tangents that he goes off on. >> all right. jak

jake sherman who has been doing great reporting on this on capitol hill. thank you and stay safe. >> thanks, chris. >> that is all in for this evening. >>> well, good evening once again. day 1,288 of the trump administration, leaving exactly 96 days to go until our presidential election. we want to begin a little differently tonight, something that was not the most important development of the day. in fact, it was fleeting and all but overlooked. it came after barack obama eulogized his friend john lewis at ebenezer baptist in atlanta. he was walking away from the pulpit to applause. as he approached his secret service agent, he stopped. he kept his distance. he reached for his mask. he put it on, and he continued to walk out. as someone said earlier today, it might have been the most considerate and thus the most presidential moment of the day, which brings us to the current president. he did not join the three former presidents, paying his respects to john lewis. he did start his day by suggesting on twitter that we delay our presidential election, which

there's this remarkable letter that jake sherman of politico published that he got from gohmert aidesys, thank you for letting our office know that louie tested positive for the coronavirus. when you write your story, can you include the fact that louie requires full staff to be in the office including three interns so we can be an example to america on how to open up safely. when probing the office, you might want to ask how often were people berated for wearing masks. that's putting other people at risk, abby. >> it's completely irresponsible. and this is a culture of sort of anti-science, pseudo-science nonsense that is so pervasive. and it's dangerous. it really puts people in danger, like those staff members, who are being forced to go into an unsafe workplace with a boss who doesn't believe in doing very basic, simple things to protect them. i mean, louie gohmert had to be repeatedly, over the last several weeks, reminded by his colleagues on capitol hill, fellow congressmen and congresswomen, to put on a mask, because these are folks who are in the age group, you know, in their

there is reporting from jake sherman that people on capitol hill are still told not to wear masks.he just went to texas where they're getting killed to a maskless rally. why would he do that? >> the president said he supports the use of masks. he supports social distancing. >> why go to a rally where they have no masks? >> he backed many of the lockdowns in the country. i'm not saying everything he's done is perfect. >> that's big of you, chris. >> he's done -- he's done a pretty darn good job with the economic response. >> we just had our worst quarter, in history. >> you know, i just need to quote andrew cuomo. i think you know that guy's name. and he has praised the president for the support he gave new york. governor newsom, in california. >> hold on a second. chris. hold on. you want to talk about selective memories. when -- when cuomo and newsom praised, they had reason. when they criticized, which is a hell of a lot more than they praised, they had reason, as well. i think you know this. i know it, for sure. the states around this country are drowning in cases and desperate

jake sherman is reporting that an email from a gohmert aide, and this is fun, reads louie requires fulltaff to be in the office. we can be an example to america on how to open up safely. you might want to ask how often were people berated for wearing masks, and he tweeted, i've gotten a flood of e-mails from republican staffers saying they are now forced to come to the hill without a mask. your thoughts, congressman? you were in the room with him. do you feel safe around him? >> i intentionally avoided louie gohmert yesterday, so i didn't come within 100 yards of him. it was a big room. because he and others wouldn't wear masks, we were all very uncomfortable. while i wish mr. gohmert well, and i hope his staff are not positive, just wear a damn mask and joy, i've been wearing my good trouble mask all week here in honor of john lewis. but this goes to the top. it's not louie gohmert who is the only problem here. the president won't wear a mask. and my colleagues on the floor moments ago are not wearing masks who are on the republican side. so the speaker of the house had to just announc

, this is some reporting from politico this afternoon, as tweeted out by a friend of our show, jake sherman our office know louis tested positive for the coronavirus. when you write your story, can you include the fact that louie requires full staff to be in the office, including three interns, so that we could be an example to america on how to open up safely. when probing the office, you might want to ask how often people were berated for wearing masks. this is a sitting member of congress including all of his staff including three interns to come work in person and berating them for wearing a mask based on an accounting by someone in that office. >> yeah. so nicole, essentially, criminally endangering the lives of other people, especially those who work for you, it is an incredible kind of intimidation that literally puts the lives of others that he's responsible for in danger. and to yamiche's point, this has become so politicized, nicole, you and i have talked about this before, in a sense, defiance that has to do with not wearing a mask as was the case for donald trump for so long, ha

this is what jake sherman put until the office of pm. our office know louis tested positive for the coronavirus. when you write your story, can you include the fact that louis requires full staff to be in the office, including three interns so that, quote, we can be an example of how to open america properly, close quote. when probing the office, you might want to ask how often people were berated for wearing masks. this is such simple stuff, wully. and it's staggering to me that the republican party, elements of the republican party have decided with coronavirus deaths over 150,000 in florida and california and texas reaching all-time highs for deaths, that some people still continue to act like complete and utter fools. and you can go on facebook with people that you can know and are angry because plan-demic, a conspiracy theory every bit as stupid but far more dangerous than pizza gate was not allowed on television this past weekend. the idiocy is mind boggling. and the idiocy kills. >> yeah. and we've reached a point, joe, we've know

for pbs newshour, yamiche alcindor and senior reddit, politico and co-author of "the playbook," jake shermansnbc political contributor. good to have you all. >> before we move any further, you know, willie, it's so interesting. jonathan's coming on. they're talking about this boycott to get holocaust deniers and to get racist white supremacists, people who have gunned down federal officials, to get them off of the platform. and it's interesting that some people say oh, you're trying to censure facebook. this is not about censorship. this is about the free market, people having the right to advertise their money where they want to advertise their money. i know there have been right-wing -- not conservative, because conservatives wouldn't suggest this -- there have been some right-wing senators and some right-wing politicians that have talked about actually having the federal government go in and oversee this private business completely against that. now, if it needs to be broken up because there are some issues regarding monopolistic type practices, that's one thing. but the federal governmen