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making life's journey, just better. >>> let's bring in jake sherman, senior writer at politico and an msnbc political contributor. jake, i don't think we're ever going to get out of this maze, but i promised ayman that we would lay low with the fish references. i don't know if you caught this. we were just having a discussion about the senate, especially on the subject of health care, because the aca is up in front of the supreme court and the chances for it remaining don't look so good. republicans, it looks like, will be able to maintain their majority. what does that mean for health care, if joe biden is able to win the presidency? >> well, good morning, guys, my two favorite msnbc anchors, but i tell everybody that. listen, here's the thing. we don't know what the takeaway of this election is going to be. i'm trying to figure that out right now as i write "playbook." that's the ultimate question after an election -- what do the two parties take from the results? and i mean, listen, mitch mcconnell pulled an inside straight, right? he's keeping the majority. no one gave him a chanc

that was my best impression of jake sherman.ele, jake sherman, thanks, boys -- gentlemen, thanks. happy election day. >>> still ahead, if joe biden pulls off a personal win, what will his coalition look like? plus president trump says the decision to allow pennsylvania to count postmarked ballots until friday will lead to violence. pennsylvania's lieutenant governor is with us. >>> speaking of the keystone state, here's a live look at philadelphia where votes are being processed. votes are already being counted, folks. we'll know soon enough. - i'm norm. - i'm szasz. [norm] and we live in columbia, missouri. we do consulting, but we also write. [szasz] we take care of ourselves constantly; it's important. we walk three to five times a week, a couple miles at a time. - we've both been taking prevagen for a little more than 11 years now. after about 30 days of taking it, we noticed clarity that we didn't notice before. - it's still helping me. i still notice a difference. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. than rheumatoid art

. >> so on october 15th, jake sherman a reporter at politico tweeted the following. tweet you had a link tout "new york post" story right after this dropped yesterday morning. i immediately reached out to the biden campaign to see if they had any answer. i wish i had given the story a closer read before tweeting it. twitter suspended me. so you actually have a reporter reporting on a story asking the other side for comment. and twitter says hi jaker isman your account at jake sherman has been locked for violating rules. what did the reporter do immediately tweets after that my goal was not to spread information. well, that's a little worrisome in and of itself. my goal was to raise questions about the story oh my overlords in silicon valley i was attacking the "new york post." you don't understand i was attacking them as did i in subsequent tweets and see how the biden campaign was going to respond. they later did respond. and then not long after, jake sherman comes back with my account is clearly no longer suspended. i deleted the tweet. when twitter is editing and

jake sherman, thank you so much. i'll let you get back to -- i think you're watching the masters. >> reporter: it's through osmosis. >> mike, hopefully you can catch that as well. >>> newly elected members of congress are in washington today. even though democrats still control the house, the majority is much smaller. as "the wall street journal" put it the democrats' majority is set to be their tightest since world war ii limiting their room to maneuver on legislation and possibly raising tensions between centrists and progressives. joining us now is arizona democratic congressman ruben gaigo. thank you so much for joining us. the democratic leadership has been there since the early 2000s. since the democratic majority has shrunk, a lot of people are asking should they consider new leaders to step into their roles? >> there's some movement happening right now in different offices, but not in the top three. we're dealing with a very tricky environment. we need to have the skill set that those people provide in passin

joining me is alivitali, jake sherman. jake, i want to start with you and the nomination process. are these picks likely to get through if it is a republican-led senate? are they likely to get through a senate led by mitch mcconnell? >> well, katy, i think the answer to that is yes. i don't feel 100% confident about that, but republicans have kind of said over the last several weeks that a president is entitled to his own cabinet. i got a couple messages this morning from republicans who said, even we can't really complain about these. i mean, i would say this, even though republicans are obviously not supportive of joe biden, they are supportive of a world in which predictability reigns, in which if a deal is cut between two entities, there doesn't have to be some sort of guessing game oz to whether the white house will uphold it. that is the kind of behavior republicans on capitol hill are going to be really interested in seeing return. but, listen, the process is going to tb arduous. you'll have questions. for example, tony blinken has been running a consultancy for the last co

. >>> joining me now is political senior writer and nbc news political contributor jake sherman. let's start with the senate. do republicans hang on to the majority here? >> yeah, they do. it's amazing, ayman, if you think about it. if you look at who won last night and you think the supreme court battles of the last couple years, you have mitch mcconnell, who democrats hated for holding out a seat and then putting two people on the bench. you have judiciary chair lindsey graham of south carolina, who won by 14 or so points. you have susan collins, who broughted for brett kavanaugh under significant pressure. you have john cornyn of texas. if you're mitch mcconnell or nrsc, the party's campaign arm, you ha you had an amazing night and you held basically the senate against whoever wins the presidency. mitch mcconnell increased his power if you look at the power spectrum in washington, d.c. >> i was going to say, in the end it shapes up to be this was a referendum on president trump specifically, not necessarily on the entire republican party. you raised a really interesting point,

joining us now, senior writer at politico and co-author of "the playbook," jake sherman, an msnbc political contributor. jake, good morning! it's always great to see you. why don't we start with what we heard from biden yesterday about the consequences of them not moving forward on this transition, namely, that more americans will die from coronavirus? what's your reporting say about where republicans are on this? because we've seen them inching toward an acknowledgement of reality, but the fact is that every day that goes by, this transition gets harder and harder, and we do have, you know, the biggest crisis in a generation to deal with here. >> so, kasie, i think a few things. i think that republicans are inching closer to that reality, that joe biden has won this election, and i think they're going to get even closer to that after thanksgiving, because it's just undeniable. the president is pulling out of the legal contests he needs to be involved in if he wants to -- you know, he's not going to overturn this election, but he's not even pretending to try anymore. so, yes, they are inchi

. >>> joining us now, senior writer at politico and co-author of "the playbook," jake sherman. he is an msnbc political contributor. jake, good morning! it's always great to see you. i'd like to set aside the lawsuits for a second, because again, the president has every right to pursue whatever he wants to in the courts. if he has evidence, he can show it and it will be investigated. but i do want to talk about republicans' willingness to indulge this. i mean, mitch mcconnell, we showed a little bit of him, went to the floor yesterday, did not call joe biden the president-elect, did not congratulate him on victory, which he did in 2016 for president trump, and i might add, for president obama back in 2008, as soon as the senate came back into session. how do you explain what's going on? is this really all about georgia and those two runoffs? and how are republicans balancing their desire to win those runoffs and keep president trump's base happy with the consequences for the country overall? >> good morning, kasie. a few thoughts here. i actually -- so, i've heard the georgia th

jake sherman, always great to see you. thank you ali vitali and monica alba as well. >>> now to what may be movement in an escalating battle over a decision by a trump administration official not to initiate the formal transition process. the general services administration has responded to a letter that leaders of two house committees sent to administrator emily murphy last week giving her until today to explain why she has not ascertained joe biden as the apparent winner of the election. that move would give the biden team access to money and materials needed for a smooth transition. now, the gsa offered to send murphy's deputy to capitol hill to brief lawmakers one week from today. illinois democratic congressman mike quigley chairs the house appropriations sch s subcommittt oversees the gsa. great to see you. thank you for taking the time. so, here's what they said, a week later than you and your colleagues want and not the a administrator bought her depe o. are you satisfied with that? >> absolutely not. every day is

let's bring in jake sherman, senior writer for politico. and our msnbc contributor dr. victoria defrancesco soto is assistant dean for civic engagement at the lbj school of public affairs and msnbc contributor. dr. christina greer, professor of political science at fordham university and politics editor at the grio. jake, we'll start with the non-doctor. what should we make of trump's remarks this morning? is he ready to concede? >> listen, i feel inadequate here next to three people with doctorates. but i will say this, i think he's starting to recognize the reality, as it is. and the people around him are suggesting that he needs to move on. i think that's quite obvious, that everybody around him recognizes he's not won the presidency, has no chance, but this is all, as i put it last week in "playbook" and got a considerable amount of flack for it, this is all performance art. it's performance art that has huge impact, but i would say the president is moving closer to a place of accepting the victory even in a psychic sense. i don't imagine he'll give some speech sayi

. >> on october 15th, jake sherman tweeted the following, i tweetea a link to "the new york post" story and reached out to the biden campaign to see if think had any answer. i wish i had given the story a closer read. twitter suspended me. so you have a reporter reporting ohhen a story asking the other side for comment. twitter says, your account has been locked for violating he twitter rules. the reporter tweets after that, my goal was not to spread information. well, that's a little worrisome in and of itself. my goal was to raise questions about the story. oh, my overlords in silicon my r valley, i was attacking the new york post, you don't understand. as i did in subsequent tweets i and see how the biden scam pain was going to respond. they later did respond. and not long after, jake shermap comes back with, my account is clearly no longer suspended. i deleted the tweet. when twitter is silencing the new york post, the newspaper with the fourth highest circulation in the country and politico, one of the leading newspapers in the country, is twitter behaving as a publisher when it al

joining us now, the senior writer at politico and co-author of "the playbook," jake sherman. he is also an msnbc political contributor. jake, good morning! we just -- it's great to see you. we just ran through the battleground polls, which are incredibly close. the national polling hasn't really been close for a long time. and while that means, i think, we're all going to be biting our nails through the poll closings and potentially late into the night tonight on the presidential race, if those national numbers hold, republicans are going to have a tough time, particularly holding on to the senate. how do you see the landscape heading into tonight? >> well, listen, the house of representatives republicans are going to become deeper into the minority. there's no question about that. they could lose between 5 and 20 seats, which would plunge them, you know, almost to 2008 levels, when barack obama won the white house. that's number one. number two, i mean, kasie, you and i know this well, they face an increasingly perilous path to keeping the senate. republicans think they've lo

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jake sherman, you've have some incredible reporting on this sort of slow moving train wreck that is the can we call it legal defense, political defense, propaganda machine. he did that event at the rnc which is steps away from the capitol. is anyone privately uncomfortable with how far fetched the claims are becoming. it went from recounts to recounts affirmed biden's win and then fraud and you have chris krebs and other u.s. officials who olivia used to work with saying this is the most secure election in american history and donald trump fired them. do any of them stand by claims being made by rudy giuliani and sydney powell. >> the most you'll get, nicolle, is present some evidence. you're in court across the country or at least you have been. present the evidence. i mean we keep asking people the central question, nicolle, that we keep asking people is what will it take for you to acknowledge the fact that joe biden has won this election? right. like, what do you want to happen? do you want fireworks across the sky? it is evident to most thinking independent-minded, free-thinking hu

. >> so on october 15th, jake sherman a reporter at "politico" the following i tweeted a link to the "new york post" story right after it dropped the yesterday morning. i immediately reached out to the biden campaign they had any answer. i wish i had given a story before closer read before reporting it. twitter suspended me. a reporter reported on a story asking the other side for comment, twitter says, hi, jake sherman, your account @jakesherman for violating rules. what did the "politico" reporter do, my goal was not to spread misinformation. that is worrisome in and of itself. my goal was to raise questions about the story. oh, my over lords in silicon valley i was attacking "the new york post." you don't understand i was attacking them as i did in subsequent tweets and see how the biden campaign was going to respond. though later did respond and not long after jake sherman comes back with, my account is clearly no longer suspend. i deleted the tweet. when twitter is editing and censoring and silencing the "new york post," the newspaper with the fourth highest circulation in the c

jake sherman of politico tweeting up mark meadows will be with the senate majority leader today in the capital. government funding also runs out and 23 days. in addition to possibly having an agreement over more economic thefor the covid pandemic, congress and white house have to agree on a government spending. john lawrence, what do you think will happen? guest: this is a continuing resolution because congress was not able to reach an agreement on all 13 appropriation bills by september 30. they have to continue funding. they do in short-term increments. one option is another short-term continuation until sometime after the biden administration takes office. most people would like to see and on the best. mnibus.t -- an on th when the new congress comes in, they have to start working on the 2020 to budget and the appropriation bills. they don't want to be handicapped having to work on the 2021 version. these bills to get worked out because there is a huge penalty here if they don't. the government can shut down. nobody wants to see that happening around the holiday season, particularly

joining me now is political senior writer and co-author of playbook, jake sherman. good to see you this afternoon. thanks for joining us on this. i don't know how many times a week, we have this conversation as to whether or not we'll get relief for americans across the board from washington, the answer seems almost always know. maybe there's some light, right? maybe there's good news at this point. my understanding is nbc news has some reporting that there is a bipartisan group of senators at this point holding informal discussions about compromise legislation. what is the likelihood that americans could see the relief before these key things run out like extended unemployment insurance? >> there's a big deadline, december 11th, government funding runs out, as if we needed another potential financial and fiscal calamity. the government is planning to run out of money december 11th. there's two things to keep in mind. number one, there's the bigger packages that we have seen, the coronavirus relief packages that passed earlier this year. something of that magnitude d

. >> jake sherman is joining me. and phillip rutger. ake, the idea that joe biden might nominate a trump supporting republican to his cabin cabinet, what would that do in the halls of congress? would that make republicans in congress feel better? or more likely to work with joe biden on legislative issues? >> katie, a few thoughts here. number one, barack obama had ray lahood as his transportation secretary. he didn't get a ton of support for his infrastructure policies or anything of that nature. i don't think this would get republicans to support him. further more you have to just look at the dialogue right now on the left over some of the appointments that biden is making or not making. bruce reed, a long time biden world insider under consider for office of management and budget. but some of the justice democrats and left parts of the party are rising up in anger over this. so you have to look at what people are saying would he nominate democrats. people believe, democrats believe, nancy pelosi says it, that democrats have a mandate

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jake sherman tweeting out that the president-elect fully supports the speaker and leader in their negotiations demands in relief talks. do you support this measure, considering so many americans need relief right now, and the only way to get them relief may be sort of this part and parcel relief, versus an entire package the democrats are advocating for? >> we have to go forward with provide runnielief to the peopl this country. we had the cares act, which put food on the table and kept people basically safe for a while, but that's played out. we need a stimulus, and we need it badly. not only are, you know, families hungry and poverty is rising, we have people who will be evicted very soon. many of the efforts to place moratoriums on evictions have played out in our cities and our states. this country needs to support the people of this country. we can do that. we started out with what the experts had told us, what was needed, a $3.2 trillion heros act. of course, they would not -- the republicans would not entertain that at all. would not negotiate. we reduced that. nancy pelosi and chuck sc

politico's jake sherman, thank you very much, my friend. really appreciate you getting up with us. it's always great to see you. >>> despite a surge in coronavirus cases, the white house is moving forward with plans to host, get this, indoor holiday parties at the presidential mansion. the festivities kicked off yesterday with the arrival of the white house christmas tree. the decision to host comes as public officials have been warning americans to cancel travel plans because of covid-19. the white house has already been the site of several suspected superspreader events and dozens of staff, along with the president, his wife, and two of his sons, have all been infected, along with a long list of campaign aides, other advisers, and allies in congress. also worth noting, the d.c. government also just told all of the rest of us who live in d.c. that we're only allowed to have ten people in our homes at any time. and of course, there is the general recommendation not to do that at all with people outside of your household. so, the white house clearly setting a great example for the r

from atlanta, nbc news's priscilla thompson and politico senior writer and "playbook" co-author, jake shermanave both of you with us. priscilla, we just learned vice president mike pence is traveling to georgia in ten days to start shoring up some of those votes. are there concerns the interparty fight among republicans could give democrats an opening to sweep the senate runoffs? >> well, ayman, this is certainly something that has to be on republicans' minds here especially with how competitive these races could turn out to be. and the amount of money and resources that are flooding in. the last thing that republicans need is infighting between senators and state officials, both whom have been elected by republican voters in this state. and so as you mentioned, mike pence is going to be campaigning here later this month. former vice president biden, now president-elect biden, saying just a little while ago that he's gong to be doing everything he can to also make sure democrats win here. so we're talking about a very tight race and, but republican sources here have told me that at the end of

and joining us now senior writer at politico and co-author of "the playbook," jake sherman. bout the democrats, the senate races, just how badly they performed and why? >> this is where democrats in washington are waking up to an abject disaster, and there's no other way to explain this. forget the white house for a second, you can, but republicans are going to net seats in the house of representatives. that was on nobody's radar. they knocked off a whole host of incumbents. they have spent 1$125 million. and they lose to a whole host of republican senators who they consider to be in danger, mitch mcconnell, jaime harrison, john cornyn and lindsey graham. if i were a democrat right now, i'd be -- again, forget joe biden for a second. congressional races operate kind of in a silo. and that silo is very messy this morning. if i'm a democrat looking to the top of my party and wondering what just went on. i mean, no matter who wins the presidency, capitol hill is going to be a mess in the next couple of years. you're going to have a house republican minority with more than 200 se

. >> joining us now, senior writer at politico and co-author of "the playbook" jake sherman, an msnbcitical contributor, and axios political reporter and msnbc contributor alexi mccammond joins us. jake, if you take out the joke he made at the top i guess one couldn't have too much of an issue with what the secretary of state said. your thoughts? >> i don't know if it was a joke or not. here's what i would say, and we wrote this in "playbook" this morning, there is nobody in washington, no republican that i have found who actually believes donald trump won this election. nobody believes tens of thousands of votes in multiple states are going to be overturned. this is all performance art and it's dangerous performance art at that. take the secretary of state, for example, i mean there are foreign service officers across the world who are in dangerous places right now of who have to answer for this kind of stuff and i wonder what they are thinking. he would have a better pulse on that than i would. but this is all from the state senate to the house to administration nobody believes dona

host: checking a couple things on twitter, a political report -- politico report, this is jake shermanow everyone is watching presidential, but house republicans will end up with a net gain in the house." "house covers the house republican women have flipped four of five seats tonight." minnesota, oklahoma, and south carolina. san mateo, california this is a biden supporter. go ahead. caller: how are you doing? i love america. im not political at all, don't even know the difference between republican and democrat. the only reason i voted was because my buddy is going through dialysis so there was this prop 203i had to vote on to help him out. driver waser lyft another proposition to keep them independent. biden was i voted for , let's biden and kamala make a change right? let's get something other than what we have in america. i just don't understand the whole thing, all this going for the black vote. we are all american. i don't get it. whatsoever andal i probably should not be voting. that's why always voted for -- why only voted for two measures. the uber mentioned measure. tell us

from the other side of the aisle in the house, this reporting from jake sherman of politico. house democrats are confused. they are angry at the democratic congressional campaign committee, the campaign arm of house democrats. they are unsure where to go next. it is a mix of "what just happened" and don't blame me. while days are ahead. the lame-duck section -- session of congress is coming up. so our leadership election -- so are the leadership elections. to add insult to injury, the , thewoman of the dccc illinois democrat, is struggling to hang onto her district. speaker pelosi and her leadership team will have a lot to explain in the next few weeks. republicans could have a net gain of 10 seats. cheri bustos ahead in her race, but just about four points in that illinois 17th district. i just want to take you through a few of the races still on the board, races in the house that we are watching. they include michigan's eighth congressional district, covers on alyssa slot, the freshman there, -- the congresswoman hanging on to her seat in the house. the republican in that r

bring in senior writer of politico, jake sherman.itical contributor, republicans not recognizing that trump lost the election can be seen as political fear for their own hides but also could be seen at costing lives and time. for a vaccine to help this country get back on its feet. does anybody see that on the republican side? >> let me add to what peter said. he's so right. the administration is not talking about a coronavirus relief package at all. there needs to be money to distribute this vaccine. legislation, laws in place, a mechanism to inoculate our country from this horse virus and this administration, wrote this in "playbook" this morning. is he even president anymore? he's not in public, not on capitol hill, not doing any of the things he needs to do even from a bare bones level. i'm in the capitol every day. i haven't seen a member of the administration in talks with congress with the leadership for days, weeks, since before the election. so it's just a stunning level of kind of just silence. it's like when bars go up on

jake sherman of politico tweeting up mark meadows will be with the senate majority leader today in the. government funding also runs out and 23 days. in addition to possibly having an agreement over more economic thefor the covid pandemic, congress and white house have to agree on a government spending. john lawrence, what do you think will happen? guest: this is a continuing resolution because congress was not able to reach an agreement on all 13 appropriation bills by september 30. they have to continue funding. they do in short-term increments. one option is another short-term continuation until sometime after the biden administration takes office. most people would like to see and on the best. mnibus.t -- an on th when the new congress comes in, they have to start working on the 2020 to budget and the appropriation bills. they don't want to be handicapped having to work on the 2021 version. these bills to get worked out because there is a huge penalty here if they don't. the government can shut down. nobody wants to see that happening around the holiday season, particularly with th

jake sherman of politico, collin peterson defeated, chair of the agricultural committee.ld amounts of money. peterson was elected in 1991. from mark capitol hill producer, reports that in the texas 23rd district, tony gonzalez defeats democrat gina ortez. let's go to calls and hear from to macula, california. hi.er: i want to say, what he said in his speech tonight, trump, was really outrageous. it goes to show how far he will removed, if you know what i mean. i cannot believe he wants to stop the count of the votes and everything. have military voters. i am a veteran myself. we have military in active duty overseas, their vote has not been counted. he wants to prevent them their right to vote it seems like. and trashing dr. fauci on what needs to be done as far as medical, but trump knows everything. how theannot understand narcissistic behavior he has, and how unstable that is being the leader of the most powerful country in the world. people are constantly saying biden has senile while trump cannot remember the guy next to or let alone say words correctly. i don't unde

just one tweet about the state of the house elections this from jake sherman of politico. he follows house leadership. he says i know everyone has been watch the presidential election as they should but house republicans will end up with a net gain and if they do, that would defy most all expectations heading into election day. host: we'll take calls from you too. in south carolina, melissa from wedgefield, a supporter of president trump. good morning. tell us what you think about the esults so far. melissa in wedgefield, south carolina, hello? caller: hello? can you hear me? host: you're on. go ahead, please. caller: yes. i'm a trump supporter and i feel wins, our country, it's going to be ruined because we've got such-a-strong men that's been in the office for all four years. e's helped everyone. he's behind everything he has said. i feel like biden has done nothing but lie and tried to sell us to china as well as his family, his son and i just hope and pray that everyone sees what's going on and wants what's best for our children and our grandchildren and the future. ho

later secretary kerry took over and undersecretary wendy sherman, our colleagues here at msnbc but it was jakeations. and avril haines, first class, secretary kerry, who i worked with when i was ambassador to moscow, i would say a couple of things, very competent people, very experienced people, hard working people who are going to get up every morning to advance america's national interest. they're not going to have any doubts about that oath of office that you read earlier. they' there are going to be policy differences, people will have different positions with biden and harris. but you won't have any question about their kbe tennesscompeten. competency will come back. >> regaining a leadership role in america, where are the pockets of opportunities to demonstrate that? rejoining the climate control commission helps. where dou we show leadership in an unstable woshld rigrld right? >> it's a very complicated question. there's no resetting to go back to 2016. there's a sigh of relief and the world, at least people i know, that joe biden will take over in january. he's a noted internationalist