investments -- >> joining me now is punchbowl news co-founder and msnbc political contributor jake sherman about goldman sachs there, saying there will be less economic prosperity in the future because of this. i know joe manchin repeatedly says he's worried about inflation. there are a number of think tanks that say inflation won't be a big deal. economists say it won't be either, a lot of economists. do senate democrats have any ability to try and put these numbers in front of him or is he just going to be a flat no on this no matter what? >> it's not going to move him, katy, at all. listen, manchin has been holding firm on this for a long time. he's been talking about he prefers this penn-wharton budget model that comes out of the university of pennsylvania which gives a little bit more grim of an estimate. i mean, and the cbo, the congressional budget office at the behest of republicans has come up with a budgetary score that assumes all of these programs in the bill are extended into perpetuity. here is how i would put it, katy. i actually think there is a deal to be had here between

with me now is jake sherman, he's also an msnbc political contributor.o jake, we're running like an antelope out of control until the end of the year. and then we are in quite a maze for the next year. will we find our way out of it? >> we're bobbing on the surface and i think there is a couple of things to look forward to, katy, a few important things to keep an if eye on. number one, is what happens to biden's agenda. that is on top of the to-do list for the next quarter, i would say. the build back better act is, i would say, not on life support but it is pretty close. joe biden and joe manchin have some serious negotiating to do when they get back to washington in the next couple of weeks and i think that is where much of the focus is going to be. but i think also we have to keep in mind that the january 6 commission, which is a house centric exercise, a house commission only, house committee technically, is going to shift much of the work to the public sphere. they're going to hold hearings, they're going to release some information, they're going t

and jake sherman, co-founder of punch bowl news. that newsletter that gets us all up in the morning. thank you all for being here. peter, i want to start with you. president biden of course had this high stakes call with the bugs -- with the russian president and talked to the president of ukraine. talk about how the white house sees this sort of relationship, especially with what's happening on the border but also can there be enough leverage to impact president putin's actual actions here? peter: yeah. that's great question. that's the $64,000 question. so president biden came to office with a theory of the case on russia. they weren't going to try to do a reset like obama tried. they weren't going to troy to cozy up the way president trump did and try something called mowing the lawn. from time to time they were going to keep russia happy with a little bit of respect, have a summit, a secretary of state visit but they didn't want to spend a lot of time on russia because they weren't going to get anywhere on it and wanted to focus

joining me now is jake sherman msnbc political contributor.ou have five things that you are watching for 2022. let's start with the impact of redistricting. how does that look for the democrats and republicans? >> i took notes today because we're really digging in deep here. i'll refer tony notes for part of this. don't think i'm not paying attention to you. redistricting was supposed to be a complete wipeout for democrats. it's been way better for them than we've previously thought. just look at california. looking here, democrats have 41 strong democratic seats. every democrat incumbent, every single one has a strong democratic seat to run in plus three, i believe, republicans will have tough races. all of them, republicans will have races. so democrats could have 44 of 52 seats in california. pretty high number. in states like new york, republicans didn't do as well. new jersey got stronger for democrats. so redistricting was supposed to net republicans between 5 and 10 seats. it's going to mostly, i would say, be a bit of a wash. republica

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joining us now, co-founder of "punchbowl news," jake sherman. he's an msnbc contributor. iew is productive. give us a sense of how -- there's a lot of anticipation for this conversation yesterday. it ended up being a phone call, not an in-person reading. give us your readout. no one is better sourced on where things stand on this bill. is there any chance at all it gets passed before year's end? >> as manchin told us yesterday, anything is possible. indeed anything is possible, but it all depends on what joe manchin is willing to do and what he's not winning to. do he has big problems with this bill. he has problems with the cost, provisions in it, medicare expansion, paid leave. listen, they can get it to a position where he would be able to vote for it, but let's focus -- i can't get inside manchin's head. i've talked to him almost every day for the last, i don't know, month about all this stuff, and i kind of just say to him, like where are you on this? and he gives a variety of different answers. but let's talk about what we do know. what we do know is it's december 14

joining me now is punchbowl co-founder and msnbc political analyst jake sherman. s, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. jake, let us start with what we're seeing with this committee. we've got two big delays, and we're also going to see jeffrey clark tomorrow. i'm particularly interested in what we can expect from clark. >> so, a few things. and i think joyce would back me up on this. there's two ways to view participation. what meadows did initially, what steve bannon did, was say i'm not going to even recognize the legitimacy of these subpoenas. the smart people are saying, okay, we'll participate, and then when they get in that room they're not saying much. that way they're not held in contempt and they're also not giving any information up. who knows what kind of privilege they'll claim, they'll say their conversations are privileged or whatever their going to say, i'll leave that up to joyce to explain, but we see this time and time again in congressional investigations, that witnesses or potential witnesses say they're going to cooperate

with me now, jake sherman, founder of punch bowl news, and an msnbc political contributor. jake, good to see you this morning. this was kind of a surprise for those who get surprised easy, i guess. here's some of what illinois senator dick durbin, a leading proponent of immigration parliamentarian's ruling. >> we're considering what options remain. >> is there a plan "d" or whatever, wherever we are? >> no, not at this point. >> so durbin says that there are no plans right now for "d," "e," or "f." are democrats essentially saying this is the end of the line for immigration reform? it's either in the build back act or in no act? >> well, let's unpack this a little bit. number one, this is now third time that the parliamentarian has knocked out immigration in the pilled back better act. we have a better sense on where the parliamentarian is on that issue. and as you noted, there shouldn't be any surprise, because this has happened now a number of times. the question then becomes, do they try to take another stab at it. a lot of people up here, republicans and democrats, don't

joining me now is punchbowl news founder and msnbc political contributor jake sherman and back with mewelcome back to quickly. jake, let's talk about the subpoenas. who is the january 6th committee going after now? >> two names come out to me as being very important. that's brian jack, the former president's political director, who is now coincidentally the political director for kevin mccarthy, house minority leader, a very important person in mccarthy's orbit, mccarthy's political animal, so to speak. and max miller was a very close aide to donald trump and max miller is now running for congress in ohio, somebody who donald trump has endorsed. there are a bunch of names, i think you had them on the screen a second ago, but those are two names that jumped out to me just because of their current station in american politics. i mean, having -- one of the things that we've wondered all along and that we've been reporting on trying to figure out is, will this committee subpoena people like kevin mccarthy. but here they are going after jack, not because of his ties to mccarthy, but because

jake sherman, thank you.a kapur, thank you as well. >>> we are turning to the fight against covid because just this afternoon president biden has rolled out this multi-point plan to fight a surge of cases that are expected in the winter, right? it's happening as there's more and more concern about the omicron variant and a lot of questions about that variant too. but if it does become this highly transmissible or dominant version of the virus in the next phase of the pandemic, the white house is trying to get in front of that. we're already seeing omicron start to pop up around the country. we knew it was in california. now today we're learning it's in minnesota. there, the first identified case, a guy who recently travelled from new york city. i want to bring in kelly o'donnell, antonia hilton, and former white house policy director during the obama administration, dr. kavita patel, with a good afternoon to all of you. kelly, let me start with you. there's a lot of pieces in the biden administration plan to

punch bowl news cofounder jake sherman, sahil, republicans are in good shape to take back the house.loudest members are getting more influence? >> reporter: stephanie, if he's worried, he's not saying or doing much to show it. t%vacuum ther a favorite right . it's certainly the betting odds are with republicans, republicans will start kicking people off committees too and that's what congress has turned into in the last couple of years. this was unheard of just two or three years ago. this was the first time this had happened was i think this congress. so this is just -- it's absolutely unheard of, and it's turned into a mess. it's a complete disaster. i'll add to what sahil said, i would add one point. the reason why mccarthy doesn't condemn this stuff is because most districts he has to win across the country are republican districts, are districts where donald trump is popular. this kind of red meat legislating, red meat behavior is popular, and he doesn't see any downside, and he's betting and republicans are betting that joe biden and democrats will be so unpopular in 2022 that

and jake sherman, founder of punch bowl news and msnbc political contributor. ome to you first. i know we started on covid and we will talk about it but, jake, we tried to get you on at the top of the show at 10:00 but you couldn't because you had to write about what was happening. you are among the many journalists who have said from the very beginning no one should be surprised that joe manchin is against build back better because he's been saying all along he's against build back better in all of the forums we've been talking about. >> yeah. he has picked issues with all sorts of provisions. i mean, i can name all of them. the price tag, medicare expansion, paid family leave, child tax credit. it's actually easier to discuss what he is for in the bill and this week was kind of a nail in the proverbial coffin because he said he was for the child tax credit. he wanted to extend it for 10 years, wanted to pay for it which would cost $1 trillion. the bill is only $1.7 trillion. so he was basically gutting the bill. he's also importantly, we should mention, agains

joining me now, punch bowl news cofounder, jake sherman. in joe manchin's interest to revive a bill and give president biden some sort of win going into 2022? >> yes, i think. i would make the argument that west virginia -- listen, here's what he can say now to his people in west virginia he can say i took this deal, this build back better bill, which was so liberal -- i am just envisioning what he might say, and i brought to it a place where it benefits west virginia. i think that's where he will end up. i do think at this point he wants a slimmed down deal. what does it look like? does he take a couple different priorities and scale them back? does he take a couple different priorities and shrink them and make the kind of duration of them longer? that remains to be scene. but biden kind of indicated that he wants to get in a room with machlk skpin cut a deal. now i think it is obviously more complicated than that. i think the left is going to go absolutely crazy over this. i think it is going to eat up the next four, eight, maybe even ten

imto bring in jake sherman, and jonathan allen. an there, chairman thompson, says the former president's delayed response could be a factor in deciding whether to make a criminal referral, meaning that congress would refer it to the adjust department. how likely is that happen? >> it seems relatively likely to be honest, the mood in the democratic caucus is that someone, specifically donald trump, and some of his allies and aides, should be held responsible for what happened on january 6th. of course, the justice department operates in a vacuum, so to speak, and does not take what congress says, it's not gospel, quite frankly. i would say, though, when it kem to these documents, when it comes to the supreme court and the political aspect of the investigation, i would say that if the supreme court decides that donald trump -- that the archives have to release these documents, it doesn't even matter anymore who is participating in the investigation. those documents will tell basically the committee anything it needs to know, everythin

. >> joining us now, co-found over "punchbowl news," jake sherman, msnbc contributor and no fan of longers and nights. jake, great to see you. during the trump administration, we saw mark meadows leave congress. now devin nunes is doing the same, leaving a potentially powerfulful post to do so. we're seeing lawmakers trying to closely align themselves with the former president and believed eventual republican candidate again. what's up with this? give us a sense of the state of play of the republican party and in particular the trump loyalists. >> jon, it certainly my lites the new pecking order in republican politics. people work, and devin, frankly, has worked most of his career to work his way to the ways and means committee. when i started covering congress more than a decade ago, nunes was known as -- you might not know this now -- but pretty steeped in tax policy, and basically the way he was viewed was the political counterweight -- not counterweight, but almost the sidekick to paul ryan. when paul ryan was passing some of his early budgets, nunes was helping ryane navigate the pol

joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell, "punch bowl" founder jake sherman, and former u.s. attorney joyce vance who is also an msnbc legal analyst. jake, you've broken this story. the text messages were from you to mark meadows. tell us, did meadows ever respond? >> i hope to put this to bed after this. i was doing from actually this seat, katy, i was sitting in the seat in this room i'm currently in, and we were having people bang at our doors and, you know, we felt scared. i'm not afraid to admit it. i felt frightened for my safety, my colleague john bresnan's safety, the press corps i've been a member of 12 or 13 years. i've known mark meadows a long time. he was a main character in a book i wrote three or four years ago, and it was -- i felt like it was my duty, it was my responsibility to try to communicate the status of the situation as much as i can to somebody who had the ability to possibly, although he did not, to possibly act on it. so all that being said, i sent him a message, and that message is now out. i told him what i was experiencing and h

joining us to help us make sense of all of this nonsense is the co-founder of punchbowl news, jake shermanwe're glad to see him. jake, let's start with the withdrawal of the white house request for certain documents from the trump administration. explain to us the biden administration reasoning here for not supplying them. and does this in any way affect the core mission of the january 6th investigation? >> not really, jon. i mean, the big thing here is that the white house is trying to withhold documents that are tangentially or not all the time related to the january 6th attack, things like intelligence assessments, briefings that were given to principals that day. things of that nature. so i wouldn't read too much into this. there is a fine line the white house has to walk, even in these kind of extraordinary circumstances between providing information and also preserving the integrity of the presidency, in the sense there's just some documents that institutionally, the white house doesn't want to let out because it's set to bad precedent. so, i think that's what you're seeing here, i w

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our friend and colleague jake sherman, a reporter texting meadows looking for information and telling meadows the scope what was going on here. point is, people texting with mark meadows onafter 6th know who they were on that day, too, and we know that the committee does as well. i think the committee has been pretty deliberate in how they rolled out the informations they have. a general role, black box. see what goes in, little what comes out. what comes out are footnotes where specific pieces of data are coming from. last night you saw a much more produced rollout of information gathered. it's only a matter of time we find out ho the lawmakers were, i frankly doubt a surprise given so many house republicans at the time made the same arguments blocking electoral votes right there on television in many cases. >> garrett, we know the full house vote is today. now that we've heard a number of texts from lis cheney, does that change anyone's vote, republicans, who love to look the other way? >> interesting question. when the full house voted on steve bannon held in contempt you saw more

this is a real give/take and this is what happens. >>> jake sherman, a skunk at the party, i think he's in his pajamas, too. >> oh. >> how do we get that, jake? >> okay. i will sleep in it. >> just what we want for our christmas present. >> willie, i know you are a bodybuilder, i don't know if we have your size. >> i would like some. >> do you have 4 xl? i am asking for a friend. >> okay, thank you, jake very much for being on this morning. >>> we had a big day yesterday. a big announcement. another huge step in women knowing their values around the world. this coming march i will be sharing a summit that brings together generations of women and abu dabi marks international women's day in 2022. 30 under 30 and 50 under 50 list where we highlight the remarkable women and the work they have done in all stages of their careers and who better to help me roll out that news than the first lady of the united states, dr. jill biden. we sat down together at the event celebrating the first u.s. list for a wide ranging conversation which you will see straight ahead right here on "morning joe." dr.

we have punch bowl news co-founders jake sherman and anna palmer.is mean build back better is officially dead, or is it possibly time to break it up and vote independently on some of the parts? >> reporter: the bill has no pulse right now, and democrats are scrambling to find a way to resuscitate this. talking to democrats over the last 24 hours, they believe they have a theory of how to do that based on senator manchin's remarks. specifically his concerns about debt, inflation, and sunsets are all roped up into one issue with expiring provisions that lapsed the last two years or three. shrink the programs that can be funded over a ten-year period. they've identified climate change funding, pre-k as a way to do that. this is tenuous. i ran this by a source familiar with manchin's thinking. hypotheticals like that are possible about reviving the bill, but not while democrats and the white house are issuing statements as aggressive as they were yesterday, questioning manchin's character and his commitment to his own word. i want to play a clip of what

. >> jake sherman, who else are we expected to hear from in front of this committee? >> katy, most people are trying to dodge the committee, using the president's claim of executive privilege which the biden administration has rejected, to not cooperate and not go in front of this committee. i would underline the point, katy, this is going to go deep into next year, i would have to imagine, at least it's definitely going to have to go into next year as we sit here 15 or 16 days until the end of the year. courts are in the midst of deciding on that claim of executive privilege. and i have to imagine it will end up at the supreme court at some point. you have just a huge number of former aides, current people in politics who have been expected and subpoenaed to get in front of this committee, people like max miller, brian jacques, who are being asked to come in front of the committee. the more interesting thing to me is the people who have not been subpoenaed, who are cooperating on their own volition. >> the amount of information they've already been able to gather. ju

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sherman on the u.s. side and deputy russian foreign minister on the russian side. jake? >> jeremy diamond, thanks so much. let's go to cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson in moscow. russia has a series of demands they want addressed they say. what are those demands? >> reporter: legally binding demands is what they're asking for, for nato to refuse to take ukraine as a member, for nato not to base any nato troops or nato military hardware inside ukraine, and for nato to roll back what russia calls its eastward expansion. that is the document putin sent to president biden about a week and a half ago. you have to look at this as well and see what putin is trying to do. the pressure we've heard people speaking about, putting that pressure on president biden, but trying to use president biden if you will as a battering ram at nato for biden to go into nato and get the changes that putin wants. clearly, that is not something in the cards but it does speak to that long-term goal of president putin, which is dividing nato. he looks at nato right now and sees that