ok, so we hear from the pentagon from joe, by jake solomon, all the rest of these clowns here, you know, as long as it takes as long as it, whatever it takes, meaning no negotiation. so that signals to russia. well, these people don't want to talk. and we go and the me, you mentioned, and you said at the end of last year, i will tell you the exact date, december 17th, when the 2 demands, when one from russia went to the nato and to washington about russia security and for so if nobody wants to negotiate in the west, russia will unilaterally achieve its security demands in and because the west does not want to negotiate, rush will do it by itself. we've already seen what it will do since of every $24.00, and it will just continue to do it. and the pain dial is only been darted turner demon. oh, yes, this week for president who can stand up actually. this a collision with west, with naval wasn't and it had to happen. so it's good that it's happened on our trips. i know that the. busy moment when the last would be prepared, you know, the problem with the previous wars that their west waste

have with china, the messaging that we have seen it, not just from the national security advisor, jake solomon, but also from other white house officials speaking earlier on thursday. about the need for these 2 leaders to really work through the future course of the us china relationship. they are very much concerned by people, by observers who are wondering whether the era of a new cold war between the us and china is all about to happen or is under way. and so the message from the by an administration is that as long as both leaders are talking, as long as officials from both governments are talking and engaging on issues that we both care about. things will work out for the betterment of both countries, citizens, but they are really trying to tamp down this sense that there's some sort of a looming confrontation between the 2 countries and aspect to golden chang or through the book. the coming collapse of china is as the u. s. could be making the situation west by trying to continue dialogue. we have had, especially over the last decade made the situation worse by talking to china in times

with china the us messaging that we have seen it, not just from the national security advisor, jake solomon, but also from other white house officials speaking earlier on thursday. about the need for these 2 leaders to really work through the future course of the us china relationship. they are very much concerned by people, by observers who were wondering whether the era of a new cold war between the us and china is all about to happen or is under way. and so the message from the biden administration is that as long as both leaders are talking as long as officials from both governments are talking and engaging on issues that we both care about. things will work out for the betterment of both countries, citizens, but they are really trying to tamp down this sense that there's some sort of a looming, a confrontation between the 2 countries. gordon chang is an academic and alter of the book, the coming collapse of china. he joins his life from toronto by skype. thanks very much for being with us. it can have strained. the relationship has been between the u. s. and china is actually having a