posh tune elders from the pakistan side and leaders from the afghanistan side was that we should read jal -- reach out to the opponents. who were the opponents? they were the taliban. let me say that there has been a disconnect between pakistan and the u.s.. which persisted. pakistan would not have treated the taliban leaders or the taliban themselves in the same manner as it treated the al qaeda leadership. al qaeda, we hunted, we captured, we neutralize and eliminated. most of the al qaeda it you find in guantanamo bay -- there are those who were basically captured by the people of pakistan. inunder 48 weretu 2008. most of the important al qaeda leaders were neutralized with cooperation between pakastani and american intelligence. the americans will vouch for it. . don't want to give the names let me come to the other aspects of these misgivings and i would say false expectations. there was a disconnect on the question of how to treat the taliban. second, there was also distressed at the operational level. this was a genuine, for example. there was these repeated reports from 2004 onwar