they joined the battle against the afghan communists in jalalabad near the pakistan border.eld in jalalabad, bin laden was a dismal failure. >> we lost more than 45 kilometers because of his mistake. >> reporter: and he lost many soldiers. among those in the militant community, like egyptian osama rushdi, bin laden's reputation took a hit. >> translator: lots of people criticize osama bin laden because he led the arab fighters into the battle for jalalabad in a very disorganized way. more than 300 of them were killed. >> reporter: shortly after the battle, bin laden returned home to saudi arabia. >> my name is turki al faisal. i first met osama bin laden in pakistan in 1985. >> reporter: prince turki al faisal was the head of saudi arabia's intelligence service. he told me that in 1990 bin laden offered up his army to drive out the communists from neighboring yemen, but the saudis didn't take him seriously. later that year, when saddam hussein invaded kuwait, bin laden once again offered his troops to the saudis. >> he asked other officials in the kingdom for the opportunity

the drop off point was jalalabad." does he have a point? >> charles always has a point.ssing here. you can make a case that osama bin laden scored a major it victory with what happened in this country as a result of 9/11. not simply the coarsening of our life here, the lack of trust the over-the security and our nation. the money out of our pocket for two wars that are only the results of 9/11 or in reaction to 9/11, not logically and not historically validbut in that sense, i don't think that jimmy mcgovern and walter johns -- i think that jimmy mcgovern and walter jones the congress members pushing this, it deserves support. >> you could have done all this without the nation-building. you could have a military presce, but you don't have to be doing and as counterinsurgency and spending all this money -- endless counterinsurgency and spending all this money -- >> but you take this point about that basis and so forth? >> biden said we can do the military staff and targeted killing with a smaller base. we don't need to be trying to build afghanistan -- >> i think we will

the joplin was jalalabad." does he have a point, mark? >> charles always has a point. i think the point is missing here. you can make the case that osama bin laden and scored a major victory it with what happened in this country as a result on 9/11. not just the coarsening of our life here, the lack of trust, the over-security in our nation. the money out of our pocket, two wars that only are a result of 9/11, a reaction to 9/11, not logically or historically valid, but in that sense, i think that jimmy mcgovern and walter jones, the congress members pushing this, deserve support. i think of the popular support for the war in afghanistan -- >> charles, you could have been all this without all the nation- building. to up endless counterinsurgency and spending all the money -- >> but his point about the bases and so forth. >> biden and others said we can still do the military stop and targeted killing with a smaller base there. we don't need to be trying to build afghanistan -- >> i suspect we will have a summer of fairly active -- i don't know if we can make progress, b

the drop-off point was jalalabad." does he have a point? >> charles always has app -- has a point. the point is missing here. you can make the case that osama bin laden it scored a major victory in what happened to this country as a result of 9/11, not simply the coarsening of our life and the lack of trust and civility, the over-the security in our nation, the money out of our pocket from two wars that all the other results of 9/11, in reaction to, not logically or historically valid. in that sense, jimmy mcgovern and walter jones, the two congress members pushing this, deserve support. i think the popular support for the war in afghanistan -- >> you could have done all this without nation building. you could have had a military presence in afghanistan. you don't have to do endless counterinsurgency -- >> but take his part about the bases and so forth. >> remember when we were debating what to do, biden said we could do the military stop and targeted killing with a smaller base. we don't need to be trying to build afghanistan -- >> i suspect we will have a summer, a fairly active

he said bin laden entered pakistan through the eastern afghan city of jalalabad about two months after the september 11th attacks while u.s. forces carried out military offenses against afghanistan. e al qaeda leader then moved arou in on the mountains of northern pakistan with help from an islamic extremist group based in pakistan. bin laden eventually settled in abbotta abbottabad where he was killed. there's speculation some members of pakistan's intelligence community knew about bin laden's whereabouts but did not report it to the united states. >>> a car bomb exploded near a police station in northwestern pakistan killing four civilians on monday. it's the first terrorist attack since osama bin laden was killed in the country. police say women and children were among the dead, and 11 others including police officers were wounded. they're investigating whether the attack is related to the killing of bin laden. islamic insurgents in pakistan pledged to attack u.s. and pakistani security forces in retaliation for the death of the al qaeda leader. there growing fears of detear rating

four helicopters, two black hawks and two chinooks took off from jalalabad in afghanistan, 160 milesm the compound. the black hawks carried 25 s.e.a.l.s. the chinook had a backup force. and extra fuel for midair refueling. the s.e.a.l.s planned to fast rope onto the roof of the main building right over bin laden's head while the second helo dropped its s.e.a.l.s on to the courtyard. the second helo lost lift and had to land, clipping its tail rotor on the wall, forcing the first to change and land on the ground. they now had to blast their way through walls, losing precious minutes, and the element of surprise. 25 minutes went by. panetta heard nothing from mccraven and the president heard nothing from panetta. what was supposed to be a 30 to 35-minute operation was pushing 40. the s.e.a.l.s were shooting their way up the stairs to bin laden's bedroom. finally mccraven reported "gentlemronimo "geronimo, ekia." geronimo, code for bin laden, ekia, enemy killed in action. now the s.e.a.l.s had to get out before the pakistanis scrambled jets to shoot down the unknown intruders. only one

four helicopters, two black hawks and two chinooks took off from jalalabad in afghanistan. 160 miles from the compound. the black hawks carried 25 seals. the chinooks had a backup force and extra fuel for midair refueling. the seals planned to fast rope on to the roof of the main building right over bin laden's head while the second hilo dropped its seals on to the courtyard. but the second hilo lost lift and had to land, clipping its tail rotor on a waltham. forced the first hilo to change plans and land its seals on the ground. they now had to blast their way through walls, losing precious minutes an the element of surprise. 25 minutes went by. panetta heard nothing from mccraven and the president heard nothing from panetta. what was supposed to be a 30 to 35-minute operation was now pushing 40. the seals were shooting their way up the stairs to bin laden's bedroom. finally mccraven reported "geronimo e.k.i.a.." geronimo code name for bin laden. e.k.i.a. enemy killed in action. only one black hawk could fly so mccraven sent in a chinook to help pick up the seals who were hauling bi

they have done it from long time ago, even during the communist time when they were attacking jalalabadey were taking slaves as infidels that were captured in the battlefield. and this has been continuing, and i think this was a great sense of relief that bin laden is finally killed and justice was brought to him. >> hamid karzai, president of afghanistan, has said that he hopes this is a lesson which the taliban will learn. is there any indication it will have any influence at all on the taliban? >> we are very hopeful that this mission will be followed on the other leaders of al qaeda and this will not be an isolated attack on bin laden and we should not declare premature victory. there are so many other al qaeda and taliban leaders, and if the pressure will continue on them, i'm pretty sure that they will either abandon fighting or they have to flee and hide themselves in the caves and mountains and will lose their commanding control over the, you know, their networks inside afghanistan. and in the meantime, if pakistan is not under military, economic, and political pressure, they wi

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i'd been to his house in jalalabad after the tora bora operation. very similar compound. five, six residences within inside it. very high walls, very austere conditions. but it was beautifully placed to be someplace that was close to a facility that no one would suspect. but khalid sheik mohammed put his safe house next to the military center. others the same thing. it was an operational profile. once we determined who was coming into this little box, you could put surveillance assets on it and around it. even if they had gone outside the box, you can look and see who's there and when they're doing operations out of there. it's really, really pure, raw intelligence power that went in here and great shout-out needs to go out to all the service members, the u.s., central intelligence agency, defense intelligence agency and all the military service intelligence elements. >> someone involved in the training of the folks. a shout-out back to you. malcolm nance former chief of training at the navy sears school. expert in counterterrorism and terrorism. i've been wanting to talk

we don't know what base but the shortest distance between the base in the j jalalabad area because you wouldn't want to have to refuel over afghanistan. anded there is intelligence saying that the pakistanis did not help in the develop of the plan for the raid, the intelligence that went into the raid and that it was a tightly held secret and no details were provided to the pakistanis in advance of the operation. bret? >> bret: as far as how many took part, you are saying the number is about 40? that is the seidenberg of 9 quad. 2navy seals gout out of the helicopter and they were involved. so 40 is the number involved. >> bret: this wraps up my coverage here as i hand off to the top of the hour. historic night. the death of osama bin laden. we will have a complete wrapup of all of the day's events surrounding this historic story tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern on special report as is president said the u.s. military has worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome as well as the in til against community. it is impo

it started on a moonlit night, from jalalabad toward the sprawling compound. when one of them stalled, it was forced to land nearby, grazing a rotor on the 18-foot walls. so, the s.e.a.l.s switched to plan "b." we learned the assault was carried out by 2 elite teams of 12 s.e.a.l.s each. a firefight erupted with bin laden's two trusted curriers, which woke up neighbors nearby. >> i heard gunfire. >> reporter: the s.e.a.l.s moved to an upper floor. there, they found the man the u.s. has been after for over a deca decade. a s.e.a.l. reports back to base. geronimo, ekia, the code indicating bin laden is dead. 12 to 15 others, including women and children, are left there, flex-cuffed. the s.e.a.l.s take a treasure trove of hard drives and documents they find in these rooms. they also take bin laden's body, leaving 40 minutes after touching down. by 2:00 a.m., the body arrives on the carrier "uss carl vinson," where it's washed in white sheets. and religious remarks were read in arabic. then, bin laden's body was eased into the north arabian sea. the u.s. did not w