. >> brennan: and jamelle bouie, our cbs news political analyst, joins us again. jamelle, i know you've been writing and reflecting on john n lewis and his legacy. and he's been called, in some ways, a founding father, certainly a founding father in terms of a more-inclusive democratic america. and i wonder how you're thinking about that. >> reporter: i think that's the right way to think about him. we have to remember that for most of the 20th century, up until the 1960s, american democracy was still tightly limited. the only people who could vote right up until the 1920s were white men. after that, after the passage of the 19th amendment is became white men and white women. although african americans who happened to live in the north were able to cast ballots, they were never sort of the majority of african americans, a large portion of african americans. the majority of african americans still lived in the south for, you know, up until the 1960s and 1970s. and they couldn't vote that they wouldn't-- it wasn't just that they couldn't vote. they had no real acces

i want to-- i know on standby is cbs' jamelle bouie.baton is that has been passed on to the next generation. and i think it's significant that we're not just talking about the passing of a civil rights icon, but what happens next? the last time the public saw john lewis was standing in black lives matter plaza. do you see this as the modern incarnation of what he was trying to do? >> reporter: i think so. i think the thing to remember about john lewis, especially when he was with the student nonviolent coordinating committee in the early 60s, is that his-- that group, his allies in that group were sort of on the far edge of the civil rights movement, meaning they did the things the member establishment figures of the movement weren't necessarily willing to do. the freedom rides, for example, what we look back on now, and think of them as being very much part of the entire process, at the time, leaders like the southern christian leadership conference, other civil rights leaders, were very apprehensive about the decision to hop on buses

yeah really have made jamel today you get channel 3 for fat. guy washington whoever here and guess would they go now. and you last shower when asked say you can shall. you go eat when i say you can eat and gas would ask they take your reckon take it now that's the reality it was going on for hanover while in prison with large data and a lockdown in this in a state but especially in mississippi is the time for the o.c. out of more to allow staff of our rate of being overworked to have time off. is a lot. this going on even more pressure rises a pressure situation. we want you to 29 should we want any brothers or sisters as inside you need 32 to be our unit 32 we want partially shut down in the interim. immediately what we want is for those brothers and sisters aside to have better food better health care better mental health care we want to be treated like human beings we want them to be able to have access to their family existed to their representation because these are things that they're being deny right now just as here value of which you h

an incarcerated person over at metropolitan detention center and sums up park jamelle florida was had 1st great success during the protests which then sparse another wave of protests. and we are also completely unaware of the people that they did not usually you know when there's a big protest people are at least aware of their friends or loved ones that have ended up being arrested and they know you know which. it's so easy that they're being held as they are at least supposed to or they're at least able to have some sort of contact with them right now we have the protesters and we don't know where they are being held when they're going to get out what sort of conditions there and and this is in the middle of a pandemic. is the word could there by the way because where would these people roll up their production their 1st amendment right to protest in the police response to this is but deplorable to say the least. and jamie judging by everything that's going on on the ground do you think you'll stay past the june 30th deadline if the city chooses not to be fun and why p.d. what would

hi, jamele. thanks for joining us. >> what's going on, don?i'm so glad you're here to discuss this. we've seen desean jackson, nick cannon all expressing anti-semitic viewpoints, and then they're struggling to explain and apologize and where to go from here. what is the root of this, do you think? >> i think a big part of it is that they don't necessarily consider what they're saying to be anti-semitic. and the one thread you see in all of the clips that you watch, not just nick scan non, but even what stephen jackson said, and if you saw the quotes, the fake hitler quote that desean jackson posted was that in their minds, they think they're saying something that is educational, that is historically accurate, and something that is not anti-semitic. and i think part of the reason they think that way is because they don't understand some of the same stereotypes and tropes that they're pushing about jews owning everything, about feeding boo these son spiconspiracy the that they were a master control over industries, that they're putting on full d

. >> you know, i think both jamel and i and a lot of people have been beating this drum for a long time -- you know, when robert e. lee goes down in richmond, virginia, everything is in play. i think nascar taking the confederate flag out, the mississippi legislature. i just think -- and trust me, snyder probably had no -- in 2013, when he said, i'll never do it, never, he probably believed it as much as when george wallace of '63 said segregation now, segregation forever, never thinking that the alabama football team would be like 90% black. so, i think that just as you did that great segment before, this is a highlight on just wealthy people taking advantage of privilege, never thinking that the swell of morality will force their hand. i just think that's, you know, snyder finds himself in front of this firing squad of morality. and one thing i say, i'll end by saying, though, is great about pepsico and all that. but i think, in our industry, our industry, you know, the espn, who i work for, "the new york times," cbs, nbc, they also have to make a commitment that we're done. we're not

jamel seams reasonable in cumberland and russell counties. and american shield apparel. stepped up to manufacture facemasks and gowns for frontline health care workers across america. this is in addition to the countless citizens who have turned their kitchen table into manufacturing centers for the facemask we was all become very familiar with. i'm even more proud to say that some of our nation's heros from fort campbell military base have gone into boston and new york to provide medical support when those areas were in desperate need of help. like others, their contributions to our nation will not be forgotten. corn from kentucky farmers has been used to fight the spread with facilities like commonwealth agri energy providing base ethanol for distilleries to provide hand sanitizer. i also want to honor a young dy from my hometown who went above and beyond. carie beth prosper volunteered to go to new york city at the height of the outbreak to care for those in need. her willingness to put her fellow americans first to help fight back against the virus speaks volumes abo

>> here's where i agree with jamel and he and i had these conversations often when we were working together in the intelligence committee. you want to make sure we're not plopping a bureaucracy here. if everybody gets to say no and sign off, we lose. it has to be smaller and more agile. i would worry about the body count. maybe it's 50. i don't know. but we need to make sure that it is agile enough in its strategic advice that it can do something. it needs to say department "x," you haven't performed. not that i'm going to beat you with a stick, i'm going to help you get where you want to go. that's what this needs to be. and how it looks in text and legislation as we all know, the devil is in those details. but if we don't do something pretty radical, we are already behind the eight ball. and i'm talking even offensive policy, defensive policy, and then all of these agencies that nobody knows are out there working that have all of the sensitive data that nobody thinks that loves them are great targets for cybersecurity. all of that -- that's why you need somebody to pay attention to it eve

i'm jamel wang. >>> i'm jessica aguirre and raj mathai is with us as well. >> a lot of changes as we begin week 19 of our restrictions. among them, high school sports. officially ng to talk to some coaches and players who say this could pose a lot of problems. also, kids are now believed to be able to spread the virus as easily as adults. we'll see you in a few minutes. >> we'll see you then. thank you, raj. we have to do more, we have to do better if we want to avoid another shutdown. that's the message from the governor today. related surge in cases and hospitalizations is a flare-up in the first wave of this pandemic. he says the state is averaging 8900 new cases a day. 33 counties are now on the state's watch list, including eight of the nine bay area counties. he says we need to work together to bend the curve again. >> that is my hope and intention is that we bend the curve as we did the first time in this pandemic and so if we can do that, we can get our kids back to school. i have four kids. i'm saying this a parent as well as governor of california. that's my hope, my