james baker stayed on at the fbi for the first year of the trump presidency. he left the fbi a year after james comey was fired as the director. all of that time of being a punching bag for the president and his supporters, particularly in their right wing media, all of that time james baker couldn't speak publicly about what he did during the russian attack. that did change with the mueller report completed and released to the public and with james baker's testimony to the judiciary committee getting released to the public, the mueller report and then publicizing his testimony, his closed door testimony, that sort of freed former fbi council james baker so he is now able to speak on the matters. my interview with james baker about what it was like to be at the top of the fbi during this remarkable period in our history and what it has been like to be targeted since then, that interview with james baker is next. interview with james baker is next ahh... brain freeze! no, it's my teeth. new crest gum and sensitivity starts treating sensitivity immediately, at th

actually cover this campaign but i've been reconstructing it lately as part of a book i ran on james bakerhe former secretary of state who ran president bush's campaign that year in 1992. and you're right, they remember perot very, very bitterly. they think perot took the numbers away from them. but the numbers don't really show it. if you look at the polling results he took a lot of votes away from bill clinton, a lot of votes away from george bush. he wasn't even in the race for several months at a time when george bush was still losing. but he shaped that race in a way. he helped channel this anti-establishment resentment that we saw manifest itself in a more fulsome way in 2016 back then in 1992. he represented this disenchantment with the two-party system, the idea of sort of a populist billionaire was invented by ross perot, not by donald trump. and if there was a swamp to be drained, he was the one who said he wanted to do it in 1992. >> now, that's where i was going to go. can you draw a line between perot in that race to the era we're living in considering one of his most famous q

and we have james baker saying i knew from the beginning this was a bad idea. then you have the deputy fbi director mccabe saying we would not have gotten a fisa warrant without the dossier the dirty dossier, the unverifiable dossier. and then you have brennan and clapper hating comey. he and comey mccabe going at each other. so i would assume between all of the infighting and finger-pointing and now what is a civil war and circulatory firing squad, we will get to the truth finally. >> well, certainly now we need to expand the investigation intn the obama state department jonathan weiner who was close to christopher steele. the libya expert for john kerry state department was shepherding steele and actually helping him write the dossier or a part of it that was laundered into the fbi and justice department. the steele dossier was written in part, according to the op-ed in "the washington post," he admitted that he helped write a summary of other material he was getting from the clinton gang and watered it through steele to the doj and fbi.ng it shows he was in

countries that have the assets to do so the syrian regime and russia are james thanks very much james baker reporting there from the united nations let's speak now to robert ford who's a senior fellow at the middle east institute in washington a former u.s. ambassador to syria indeed and he joins me live via skype from maine this for the ambassador ford what's your feeling about this this inquiry is going to happen well the point of the inquiry is frankly to build pressure on russia and i would be surprised if the russians allowed the security council to vote in paper such an investigation i would expect the russians to use their veto right so therefore it's all very well the u.n. security council making statements here and there and making resolutions here and there but ultimately is that age old criticism ultimately it's toothless. when there is disagreement among the permanent 5 members of the security council the ones with vetoes it's very hard for the united nations to take any strong action and russia has been using its veto to protect the asada government and russian forces from any

joining me now is someone else that worked alongside robert mueller, james baker the former general counselmueller was director. aaron zebley, you worked with him at the fbi and special counsel's office. the president is calling him a never trumper. he's been a long-time aid of robert mueller. going back many, many years does it make sense to you and/or can you explain why you think mueller would want him by his side. >> aaron is great. he's a great person. he's an excellent lawyer. he's super nice, low ego, team player, good judgment. i mean, i just can't stop saying enough good things about him. look, if i was in director mueller's shoes, i would be wanting someone like him with me because you don't know the level of detail he will go. you can't remember everything in the 448-page report plus the other stuff he has. i'm sure he is there to help. like he has for many years. i don't see this as a big deal. i don't know what the president and others are complaining about. it makes sense to me. >> we looked at a lot of mueller's past testimony. he's deliberate. if there is a fact he doesn't k

piece of legislation, supported by citizens climate lobby, founding members, george schulz and james baker, two top republican administrators in the george h w bush administration and george w. bush administration. this is not a tax. money collected would go back to citizens. it would be managed through irs. i think if this administration wants to demonstrate real interesting climate change, that is a good way to do it. host: how does the act work? fee on carbonut a starting lower and increasing gradually. the money collected is redistributed to american citizens on a monthly basis through irs. this fee ishy has, put on products, the manufacturer, or the use of them, creating carbon, including other countries. we would put a fee on any product, say coming in from canada, and the money collected would go to american citizens. that would encourage canadians to develop this process for their own citizens, and that would spread throughout the world. this is a bipartisan effort. host: talking about the legislative effort when it comes to environmental policy. previous caller mentioned ivanka's

and james duddridge become a brexit minister. i think that is the job steve bakerbritain's thriving science sector would be put at risk by a no—deal brexit. that's the warning from the head of the wellcome trust — the uk's biggest charitable funder of scientific research. the trust spends around a billion pounds a year supporting research — most of it in the uk. katy austin has more. jasimin is a scientist from germany, researching sex chromosomes at the francis crick institute in london. she's not sure whether to stay in the uk, though, because the country's leaving the eu. my feeling is that over the next 10, 20 years, if brexit actually happens, especially if it happens without a deal, which seems likely now, that uk science is on a decline, with regards to, yeah, funding opportunities, positions that are available, attractiveness of living here. you could see this place as a symbol of britain's status as a science superpower — europe's largest biomedical research facility under one roof, with 1200 researchers working here from across the globe. the director her

baker. one of the former commerce department attorneys who was involved in the administration's investigative question, james booth flyer i think was involved as a student of yours and told a house oversight committee in the interview that you have been discussing things with him when the trump administration was preparing a request. can you confirm if you were in discussions? >> they were conversations with my good friend on many subjects. >> did you discuss -- >> when you call me to the deposition, i will answer questions. [laughter] [applause] >> when you are scheduling that, can you send a note to everybody so we can all hear the show? >> happy to do that. >> did you discuss the use with the congressional purposes? >> -- privileges made. i'm not going to go into those. i don't have a lawyer here. remember, any lawyer that represents himself has a fool for a client. .. >> but i believe to reconcile the two baselines that would be useful and what excites me more than the apa stuff is that i would like it resolved in the context as possible in modern day and age but not this coming census but something that