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james baker, a former noaa administrator. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> first, have you ever heard of a white house administration getting so involved in noaa's forecasting as to threaten to fire staff? >> no, i haven't. in fact, it's illegal for the president or anybody else to put out a false weather forecast. congress passed a law in 1894 providing for a fine or an imprisonment for anybody putting out a false weather forecast. we haven't seen this for a long time, not since something like 1954 i think there was a tornado hoax but it was just last week was the first instance we have seen since then so this is something brand new. >> "the washington post" reporting putting it all the way up to the president himself saying mulvaney to put the pressure on noaa to support the false forecast and the president denying this but look. it's actually a federal crime to put, you know, out the information as you said. so is that a federal crime? can they prosecute it? >> absolutely. this is a federal crime and it's punishe

conservative solution and the original co-authors are a who's who of republicans, for example, james baker and george schultz, and our plan is named after them. proves it is republican credentials. our: we are hearing from color from virginia. -- caller from virginia. guest: it looks like some of what we are doing is causing a loop to occur in the northern parts of the planet. if you look at methane leaks from the tundra and the amount of absorption by the ocean. we are urging a critical point where we may not be able to turn the ship around. you act like we can solve the climate crisis, that was like 15 years ago. we need to sue the oil and gas industries are hiding research into this that they knew 30 years ago trade maybe we could use some of that money like we used with the tobacco companies to fix some of the lives by building better flood zone infrastructure, allowing solar panel use to increase energy renewable energy, and also just use it to build electric vehicle for us so we can get the carbon out. much of disagree with that. we need to solve the climate i amem going forward, and

that has carried over but there are some republicans leaders like stalwarts like george schultz, james baker come out with an impact policy, frank paulson also has a carbon tax initiative. so maybe as more elite republican elites start to donate less about the cause of it andtalk more about how to fix it . >> richard wants to come in here but i would note this is not specific to the current administration. this will really date me, dinosaur that i am, and if anyone remembers jimmy carter wore sweaters to his conversations with the american people and in the senate at the time, every other lightbulb, funny we should talk about lightbulbs these days was turned off on the ceiling of the office building and so forth so this concern noted a long time ago and it's gotten uneven attention over many years but i think at this point, many more people see it as a crisis and used to, i'm sure that's fair. we still need to talk about china. >> the interesting thing on the republican side on the climate change issue is the generational split because i love james baker and i love george schultz but i don't

constitutional committee in the coming weeks well let's get more on this from our diplomatic and state james baker. the united nations chain say a long awaited step forward some might say just how significant is this. an important step but not a breakthrough i think because it is only dealing with one small part of the problem but it is a small part of the problem that the diplomacy of the u.n. has got caught up on for well over a year now the former special envoy stefan diem a store i was working on this constitutional committee he ended his job at the end of last year and all year gap pederson is norwegian successor has been working trying to get this committee together of the problem was who was going to sit in the committee there are 3 different lists one drawn up by the government one drawn up by the opposition and list of civil society that was drawn up by the united nations and there were arguments over the last names about they've been arguing over just a couple of names for literally months and months a final decision on the names was made last week in turkey when the mead leaders of turk

let's go to james baker who leaked information, let's go after the real criminals in this investigationper and brennan and hold them accountable for the crimes they committed against the american people. lou: too that point, the department of justice under the leadership of william barr investigating all of the folks you does mention, are we going to see, in your judgment, will we see justice done? >> we have to because emerge and people deserve it. just because you the director of the fbi, does not give you the right to break the laws, abuse the fisa court system and use your badge and gun to go after people because of politics. look what they did to carter page, so many other people, they use their position of influence to try to destroy the american lives because they did not like politics. those people need to be held accountable because i been to third world countries, not this country. lou: we don't know what happened to the weiner laptop. we don't know where the e-mails are, we don't know why the fbi never took charge of d&c servers that were allegedly hacked by russians. and wer

thing on the republican side on the climate change issue was the generational splits because i love james bakerand george shultz but i don't think they are going to be the vanguard of changing republican views on climate change, but millennial spies because if you look at the polling not in this particular survey that including some of the other republican polls but millennial is in general would put climate change is the number one security threat and republican millennial schools sometimes put at number one as well commit or number one or number two. it is the product of the natural variations but no millennial skamania in, they tend to put twice as much as the oldest. that group is becoming a bigger share of voters and they enter the voting base and vote often so what this all comes down to is a member of republican leaders kind of saying we've got to have a climate change policy or we are going to start losing millennial saying we might lose them forever if they no longer vote republican and this is their number one issue. >> and they are already looking toward the democratic party. >> i'm

beneficial, let's go after james comey for lying what we call perjury and a prosecute andrew mccabe and james bakerow leaked information. let's go after the real criminals in this investigation which is comey mig and clap and brennan and hold them accountable for crimes that committed against american people. >> to that point, the dpght department of justice under leadership of william barr investigating -- all a folks you just mentioned -- are we going to see in your judgment are we going to see justice done? >> question of to. question of to lou because american people deserve it . just because you were director of the fbi doesn't give you right to break the log and abuse system and use your badge and gun to go after people because of their politics look what they did to carter page age so many other people theys use their positions of influence to try to destroy american lives. because they didn't like their politics. those people need to be held accountable for that because that happens in third world countries not this country. >> interesting we don't know what happened to the -- the left top

. >> james baker one of three former members who condemned the president's statement in the piece. thank you for being here. first and foremost, public trust in weather forecasts. especially when lives are at risk cannot be politicized. you tell me how important is it for noaa to maintain scientific integrity? >> brooke, the weather forecasts are not just happy talk. they involve protection from death and destruction. when i became the administrator of noaa in 1993, one of the first slogans i put up was, fund the weather service or die. that's, in fact, what we're talking about here. we need to have public trust in the forecast so that people do what they need to do and are not overwarned. one of the important things the weather service has done over the years is to learn about the social impacts of its forecasts as well as the scientific side of it, and making sure that people get exactly the warning they need and not too much. in this case, there was overwarning of false reports that alabama would be strongly affected and the weather service office in birmingham didn't even know

. >> will you talk about president bush's relationship with james baker? jean: yes. met when the bush's moved from midland, texas to houston, texas. he and secretary baker became tennis partners. they belonged to the same country club and that on the tennis court. the couples became very close friend. reverend baker's wife died of cancer. he would tell you that he would not have survived his first wife's death without george and barbara bush. barbara bush was getting ready to run for the u.s. senate. -- president bush was getting ready to run for the u.s. senate. he talked secretary baker into running his campaign. -- he used tohim call him bake. come run my senate campaign. they lost. that was what their friendship was like. he became president bush's secretary of state. secretary baker is probably one of the smartest people i have ever met. he and his wife susan were there the night he died. i will tell you a story about the night president bush died. sully.orable dog, president bush's son neil was there and his family. i was there, evan was there, the baker's were

people we want information from here the general counsel and fbi james comey and general counsel james baker. the deputy director acting director at one point andrew mccabe. that threat -- the counterintelligence, peter strzok and the deputy counsel, lisa page, the chief of staff for james comey, james rybicki and a let these people will have information ofs going back and forth, showing w? that there were individuals passed over to the white house to spy on not only what the president was doing but also the staff. i will tell you something, sean, in reality, it was a continuation of cross fire hurricane which was of course reported counterintelligence investigation. james comey told the president three times he was not under investigation. he called the dossier unverified installations. he utilized it to a fisa court. if i was a fisa court judge i would be asking a lot of questions of james comey. >> sean: it was premeditated fraud obviously because they were warned repeatedly. we understand what the insurance policy was all about, don't we, jay, and we understand the text message between p

reporting to the former fbi council james baker, mccabe was a dead about the idea, surreptitiously reporting the president of the united states and making the case that trump should be removed from office. rod rosenstein was serious about the wire and others serious about invoking the 25th amendment. my sources telling me mccabe could face criminal charges but a grand jury will be convened, ten days, seven, ten, 14 days. we will wait and see. but i want to be very clear. i want andrew mccabe to know this. oh, yeah, the lawyer for stormy daniels, i give him the benefit of the doubt. we live in a country where accusations against anybody, even from the doj inspector general and former colleagues of the fbi, yeah, they are incredibly, aren't they? but everybody deserves the presumption of innocence. innocent until proven guilty and i will not deviate from that. it looks bad. it looks like mccabe will face just as very soon. no one has to wonder if he's failing to family tonight about his treatment and jim comey's treatment of a 33 year veteran. here with martin i, fox news contributor sara cart

i love james baker and i love george schultz but i don't think they'll be the van gard of changing republican views on climate change but millenials might because if you look at particular n this survey but others, including republican surveys, millenials in general put climate change as their number one national security threat. republican millenials sometimes put it number one as well, for a one or two listening time it's been the case if you don't like the solution it's easier to dismiss climate change as the product of national variations. if the solution is government regulation, big government, taxes and all these things that conservatives, small government conservatives don't like. but now with millenials coming in, they tend to put about twice as much as the oldest cohort on the republican side. these are self-identified republicans that say climate change is real, we've got to do something about it that group is also becoming a bigger share of voters as the oldest group sort of ages out and they enter the voting base and vote more often. so what this amounts to is a number of republi

the bureau's top lawyer, james baker. former fbi agent peter strzok, lawyer lisa page, among other witnesses. this morning a senior republican on the house judiciary committee said the recent report on comey shows he violated fbi policy and the bureau's employment agreement, and he said that backs up attorney general barr's recent statements. >> he said there was a failure of leadership at the upper echelons of the fbi. that is certainly true, and that includes comey, mccabe, baker, strzok, paige. there's a basis for good sermon about what took place. then he uses the term "political surveillance." "unauthorized surveillance." that is scary. >> a very important part of this process, harris, will be the public testimony from the inspector general michael e horowitz. at this point, senator lindsey graham has publicly committed to doing that as soon as possible the report is available for everyone to read. i think it's worth noting that the house judiciary committee that also has direct oversight for this process has yet to

i love james baker and i love george schultz but i don't think there's going to be the vanguard of changing republican views on climate change, but millenials might because if you look at polling not in this particular survey, but other polling including some of the republican polls they have done, millenials in general will put climate change as their number one national security threat. and republican millenials will sometimes put it number one as well or number one or two. and, you know, as -- as has been the case, if you don't like the solution, it's easier to dismiss climate change as the product of natural variations and things. if the solution is government regulation and big government and taxes and all these things as a conservative, small government conservative, but now with millenials coming in, they tend to put about twice as much as the oldest cohort on the republican side. these are self-identified republicans to say climate change is real. we have to do something about it. that group is also becoming a bigger share of voters as the oldest group sort of ages out and they ente

reagan, reagan's team, scholz, al hague, macfarlane i mentioned earlier and, of course, bush and james bakerand then bill clinton. those are described in more detail but there is certainly a good amount of him reaching out to his former aides, visiting with them and you just, you get a sense through the dialogue and some of those conversations of how much it wait on it. he definitely felt a burden for each of those men. >> to your right. >> hello. i'm a republican woman from northern california, and i just want you to know that i'm a naturalized american, originally born in taiwan. i have two questions for you. number one, i was here for my sons sports activity, and when i was going to the museum i was very puzzled, why is it that president reagan, or president nixon later on would go to china and established that kind of relationship with china, knowing that china is a communist country? when i saw in exhibit in 1947 in his memoirs he said it was clear that we had come to a continent teetering on the brink of starvation and chaos. europe would be plunging into anarchy, revolution, and ultim

conservative solution and the original co-authors are a who's who of republicans, for example, james bakereorge schultz, and our plan is named after them. proves it is republican credentials. our: we are hearing from color from virginia. -- caller from virginia. guest: it looks like some of what we are doing is causing a loop to occur in the northern parts of the planet. if you look at methane leaks from the tundra and the amount of absorption by the ocean. we are urging a critical point where we may not be able to turn the ship around. you act like we can solve the climate crisis, that was like 15 years ago. we need to sue the oil and gas industries are hiding research into this that they knew 30 years ago trade maybe we could use some of that money like we used with the tobacco companies to fix some of the lives by building better flood zone infrastructure, allowing solar panel use to increase energy renewable energy, and also just use it to build electric vehicle for us so we can get the carbon out. much of disagree with that. we need to solve the climate i amem going forward, and more

number two would be james a. baker the third.umber three would be former british prime minister tony blair, and margaret thatcher. those are the people who i -- >> eric, who is a most impressive person you met in congress or in public life? >> i will say some who were in here will remember this name. when i was first elected to the house of delegates, i was young, i was -- >> still young. >> just had a kid get married so no, i'm not so young anymore. but i was 28 years years old and my first term. there was a democratic legislator from roanoke county, and and i can see him shaking his head, dickey crane well. he would have this country lawyer regime, this aw shucks stuff but there is no one i've run into since. could've been just a stage in life that i was a kid in this process to see how we maneuvered at the time, at a police he was later at the time. and just had the ability to affect an outcome and intimidate but yet he could be kind. it was pretty impressive. so again, a very unlikely person to say was most impressive but i s

number two, james a. baker the third.ormere with british minister -- british prime minister tony blair and margaret thatcher. those -- who is the most impressive person you have met in congress or in public life? erik: when i was first elected to the house of delegates, i was young. david: still young. i just had a kid get married so i am not young anymore. i was 28 years old in my first term. there was a democratic legislator from roanoke county. -- dickie cran well -- dickie crane well. he had this country lawyer shucks.- aw it could have been because i was seed in this process -- to how he maneuvered at the time and i think he was leader at the time. ability to the affect an outcome and intimidate but yet he could be kind and it was pretty impressive. a very unlikely person to say that was was impressive. david: congressman, who is the most impressive person you met? >> in the state senate i worked with doug andrews and if you talk about doing skulduggery behind the scenes -- in the house of representatives, nancy pelo

number two would be james a baker the third.ber three would be former british prime minister tony blair. and, margaret thatcher. those are the people. >> eric, who is the most impressive person you have met in congress or public life? remembern here will his name. -- when i wasy first elected to the house of delegates, i was young. >> still young. >> i just had a kid get married. i'm not so young anymore. i was 28 years old. in my first term. there was a democratic county,or from -- dickie kramer. -- he would have this lawyer regime. there is no one i run into since. it could have been my stage in life that i was a kid in this process to see how he maneuvered at the time. i believe he was leader at the time. to affecthe ability an outcome and intimidate. he could be kind. it was pretty impressive. a very unlikely person. i saw him wheeled that progress. >> who is the most impressive person you met in public life. >> in the state senate, i made -- i worked with hunter andrews. if you're talking about skulduggery, it is those two.

number two would be james a baker the third.ber three would be former british prime minister tony blair, and margaret thatcher. those of the people who i had the greatest speed is eric, was a most person he met and cogs or in public life? >> you know, i will say this, some who were in you will remember this name. when i was first elected to the house of delegates, i with young. i was -- >> still young. >> just had a kid get married, so no, i'm not so young anymore. i was 28 in my first term, and there was a democratic legislature, legislator -- i can see -- dickey. he would have this country lawyer regime, this all shocks. but there was no one i've run into sense. and it could've been just a stage in life that i was a kid in this process to see how he maneuvered at the time. i believe he was leader at the time. just had the ability to affect an outcome, and intimidate but yet he could be kind. it was pretty impressive. so again, a very unlikely person to say with most impressive but i saw him wielded that progress. >> who was th

frank baker, sheppard mallory and james houston, all of who paved the way for thousands more.s one of the representatives here, i am proud that fort monroe serves as a symbol of the courage and heroism that emerged from america's original sin of slavery. and from a military community perspective, we know the fight for freedom is one waged with great cost, including thousands of african-americans from virginia who contributed to the safety, security and freedom of this nation. many came from or fought in hampton roads communities. we are reminded of men like william carney, born into slavery in norfolk, he joined the union army during the civil war and made his mark during the 1863 assault on fort wagner in charleston, south carolina. if a soldier holding the union flag was killed, he ran to catch the falling flag, raised it high and kept marching, despite his own multiple wounds. he made his way back to the union side, never once dropping the flag. his actions were an inspiration to his fellow soldiers. unfortunately, he had to wait until 1900, 37 years, to receive recognition

. >> has he called james comey as a witness ever, baker, stroke, page, what about sally eights the former acting attorney general of the united states to help set up, how about joe biden who is vice president of the united states , even more than john adams, most active. as he called to testify, how about barack obama. has he been called to testify, how about any of their documents. any subpoena from their documents. >> obama's making movies, so nothing, they don't want to get to the bottom of anything. >> no, and interestingly enough, joe biden, the washington post himself reported on joe biden going to the ukraine and his son getting this big job right after he. [inaudible] while democratic operatives are working to target trump. nothing to see here. i thought we cared about foreign collusion. the real answer is we only care about it when it doesn't involve democrats. >> are you fiercely telling me jerry nadler, one of the weakest member of congress, a failed politician at every level, jerry nadler is going to uncover on donald trump of the fbi can the cia come the southern district of

has he called james comey a as a witness ever. mccabe, baker, strzok, page.ly yates, the acting attorney general of the united states who helped setel up general flynn. did he call him? how about joe biden the vice president of the united states. the most of active in american history, even more than john adams, i guess. was he called to testify? how about barack obama? how about any of their documents. any subpoenas for their documents from elijah cummings. >> obama is making movies on that. interestingly enough, joe biden, "the washington post" itself reported joe biden going to ukraine and his son getting this big job in ukraine while democratic operatives to working with key ukrainians. we only care about foreign collusion when it doesn't involved democrats. jerry nadler. one of the weakest members of congress. that he's going to manage to uncover on donald trump what the fbi, the characteristics a, the attorney district of new york, the district of washington and the eastern district of virginia, basically the entire upper-level of our intel law enforcem

james comey as a witness? hasal he called mccabe, baker, strzok, page. sally yates, the former acting director who helped set up joe flynn. how about the vice president of the united states. even more than john azam, i guess. did he call to testify? how about barack obama. has he been called to testify? how about any subpoenas from their documents? >> obama is making movies on netflix. they don't want to get to the bottom of anything. >> joe biden, the "washington post" reported joe biden going to ukraine and his son getting this big job in ukraine while democratic operatives are work with ukrainians to target trump. i thought we cared about foreign collusion. the real answer is we only care about foreign collusion when you are a democrat. jerry nadler is going to manage to uncover what the fbi, the cia, the southern district of new york, the district of washington. the eastern district of virginia.. the entire upper-level our law enforcement. jerry nadler is going to get to the bottom. mark: when we get back, i want to ask you about this guy steele and

national editor of the cook political report, and peter baker, white house correspondent for "the new york times." i'm going to start with jamesolleague at "the new york times," peter. try to understand donald trump as a person with psychologist and strategy and motivation, and you will inevitably spiral into confusion and cofeoffee. he's not a person. he's a tv character. and everybody sort of overanalyzed sharpie gate. that was just as good of a reminder as any. >> yeah, i think that's exactly right. we do in some ways attach so much importance to small events because we're trying to understand this unlikeliest of presidents. this is so different than any other president we're used to, any other president would get into a fluffal about something small like this and make it go away by stop talking about it. we may talk about it, i get it, but the truth is if we didn't talk about it every day for a week, it would wear out. the storm would dissipate, but in trump world, that's not allowed to happen. the storm will continue because he will continue until he has proved himself right. >> it's exhaustion presidency. i think that's

james clapper who was concerned. >> our first guest can speak to it as well as the reporting that you just heard. cnn legal analyst jim baker and cnn national security analyst. samantha served on the president's security council. let me start with you. reporting that the d.o.j. knew about the whistle-blower a week before they got the referral and that according to the "new york times," the white house knew, as well. is that improper? what's your read on this? >> it's concerning to me. when i heard that, i was not thrilled about it. i think i have no reason to question the acting dni or anybody that works for him in terms of the integrity or their effort to proceed in good faith in a very difficult situation. but having said that, it did concern me when i heard that they had gone both to the white house and to the justice department to talk about this when the center of this case obviously has to do with the president and also then in the call the attorney general is named several times. so i'm not sure that they did the wrong thing. i can understand why they did it. it did make me quite concerned and especially now that we

james clapper who was concerned. >> our first guest can speak to it as well as the reporting that you just heard. cnn legal analyst jim baker and cnn national security analyst. let me start with you. reporting that the d.o.j. knew about the whistleblower a week before they got the referral and that according to the "new york times," the white house knew, as well. is that improper? what's your read on this? >> it's concerning to me. when i heard that, i was not thrilled about it. i think i have no reason to question the acting dni or anybody that works for him in terms of the integrity or their effort to proceed in good faith in a very difficult situation. but having said that, it did concern me when i heard that they had gone both to the white house and to the justice department to talk about this when the center of this case obviously has to do with the president and also then in the call the attorney general is named several times. so i'm not sure that they did the wrong thing. i can understand why they did it. it did make me quite concerned and especially now that we hear about the level of involvement of the department

baker, thank you for being with us this afternoon. the prime minister is attending the united nations general assembly in new york. our diplomatic correspondent, jamesas said that he will respect their ruling, the judgment that has been made by the supreme court, but that he strongly disagrees with it. they are not rolling over, they are pushing back on this to say they will attempt find ways of getting around it. the prime and has made it clear that he thinks there should be a queen's speech to outline the government's programme. what is not clear is how people engineer that queen's speech because normally it comes shortly after parliament has been prorogued and a new session has begun. there is still uncertainty about that. at the moment, the impression we are getting is that mrjohnson will carry on as usual. we has a packed schedule here today, he will be talking to senior fellow heads of government, dollar trump, the us president, the president of iran, several other world leaders. he is also due to give a speech to the un general assembly much later today or stop what we are understanding at the moment is that after he has given that speech, he