but ed meese was fighting in a way with james baker, but he also unilaterally stepped out of the fighting in that he said i'm not going to leak because looking against -- [inaudible] would not only hurt baker potentially, but also hurt the president. so sometimes people have kind of a higher sense of what they're trying to accomplish from the policy perspective, and they say i'm going to not necessarily are leak to advance myself, but i will do what i can to kind of help the administration by being silent and the -- [inaudible] so i think personality really drives it. you can't -- [inaudible] but then on the policy side, if you have strong disagreement about policy or the policy direction, you are going to have some fights. personality is a constant where policy is a variable. >> great. we have another question and, actually, i think certainly tevi should answer this, but maybe kiron will want to weigh in as well. this is from herbert, and the question is what are factors

former secretary of state james baker and his wife are being treated for covid-19 at their home in houston. baker's senior advisor saying the couple, quote, felt crummy but have not required hospitalization. the two believed they were exposed last week while visiting family in wyoming. and louisiana senator bill cassidy is quarantining after testing positive for covid-19. cassidy, who is a doctor, caught the virus after being probation exposed to an infected person. the first ever u.s. air force dogfight similarity competition between human and artificial intelligence goes to the ai. the ai virtually shooting down a u.s. air force top gun in five rounds of mock air combat. the human by lookout said he couldn't keep up with the robot's aggressive tactics raising questions of the future of air-to-air combat. look at your headlines. send it back to you, ainsley. ainsley: thank you so much, jillian. today lori loughlin and her husband will be sentenced in the college admission scandal.

i talked to james baker and other chiefs of staff. howou think that you know to do this job, you don't. when you get here, you've got to ask for advice. --comes at you, to put it jake is a baseball fan. it is like going from the little league's where you can hit the ball out of the park, 95 mile an hour fastball, it comes at you a lot faster. but hopefully the american people will be well served. it is the greatest honor of my life and it has been a joy, not only to get to know you, but to continue that relationship as you try to bring the truth to the american people. >> thank you for being with us. we will continue in a moment with our second guest, kevin mclaughlin. mr. meadows: thank you both. >> alright, we are back. great to have you on, kevin. kevin: thanks for having me. i wish we were together and in committedt what i've -- i started drinking monday night. i'm not going to stop. so take everything i say with a grain of salt. coffee.rinking charge of are in fervent fight for battle of control of the senate as executive directo

i actually spoke to james baker and a number of other chiefs of staff. if you think you know how to do this job, you don't. when you get here, you have to ask for advice, whether it is from democrats or republicans, jake is a big baseball fan, so it is like going to the little league's, where you can with ball out of the park a 95 mile an hour fastball, hoping to connect. it comes that you a lot faster, but hopefully the american people will be well served. i know it is the greatest honor of my life and it's been a joy to not only get to know you from capitol hill, but continue that relationship now as you try to bring the truth to the american people. >> thank you so much, mr. meadows, for being with us this morning. we continue in just a minute with our second-guessed. -- second-guest. >> thank you both. >> we are back. it is great to have you on, kevin. great to have you on this morning. >> i wish we were together and in person, but i am committed to try to keep the convention going. i started training monday night and have not stopped. take everythin

and thank you, too, and nick by the way for helping with that book on james baker. you were both very general with your time and recollections to make sure we got that right. i just want to throw that in there too. so secretary rice, we're going to start right off with some pretty big stuff. this is a really tumultuous time in our history both here at home and around the world. big things are happening. and it feels like, you know, we always say maybe it's a cliche, but it feels like a hinge point. i want to get you talking about that. we remember the cataclysmic of 9/11 and how you responded to the challenge. in terms of american fatalities, we're now experiencing a new 9/11 basically every 2 1/2 days. other countries had flairups lately. but it's such a different scale. i look at the numbers august 1st, france had 11 deaths. australia had 7. japan had 1. spain and germany had zero. we had 1,244. what are we doing wrong? what should we be doing? more importantly, what is this doing to american leadership? where is this going to leave us in terms of our place in the

his name is james baker. into the origins of the trump russia investigation could be known by labor day, maybe before, maybe after. let's talk about the new development with florida congressman greg stuebe. he is on the house judiciary committee. i want to play a sound bite of president trump talking to our own maria bartiromo and then i will get your reaction. here it is. >> if you do not win in november we'll not hear another word about this. president trump: that's right. probably. they will cancel it out most definitely. they will probably cancel it out, almost definitely. >> yep. >> they spied on my campaign, which is treason. they spied both before an after i won. think of that. using the intelligence apparatus of the united states to take down a president, a legally elected president, a duly-elected president of the united states. gregg: congressman, what about the first part, if biden is elected, do the investigation or any indictments there from magically disappear? >> absolutely it would. the presid

hard but don't give up and i know you've emphasized hope with action in the past you spoke with james baker the secretary of state for ronald reagan do you think you'd speak today with donald trump and secretary of state pompei o about why they should link here is shaking your head why they should understand the link between the environment and the destruction of the u.s. economy because of her own of ours now i mean everybody's told i'm not i wouldn't to be honest i just wouldn't waste my time to king to people like that because they don't want to be you don't want to be you don't want to change they won't you see when you talk about consumer advocacy in the way that you just have i'm sure your probably aware of k. street in washington the lobbying street how can you fight the lobbying of fossil fuel industries that are against what you say i mean obviously the jane goodall n.g.o.s are trying their best to educate tens of thousands of children can they make the difference compared to billions of dollars of public relations money advertising money and arguable backhanders to politicians. we

james baker, james clapper interestingly enough.re's a whole list of obama administration era officials who are part of that list, but we have learned from nbc npr reporting that the james clapper essentially has been told that he is not a target of the investigation. does that surprise you -- i'm sorry, james brennan i should say. does that surprise you? >> well, i want to see what the report says before i start talking about what i call the never trumpers and who did what, but thankfully durham is looking at this, but we need to call in the individuals to see who abused their power, who was directing somebody to lie to the fisa court to get these warrants and who was trying to set up -- why people were trying to set up michael flynn. somebody was directing it. again, we need to see where the buck stops. the burr hamm report is going -- the durham report is going to be very telling. hopefully it will come out soon. when senator graham starts calling the individuals to testify before congress, the american people will finally get to

it is effectively 2 candidates swinging at each other i think it was james baker that said that in the 2000 recount that this was a street fight for the american election that's how he described it it's just the nature of american politics right another have to be then so it wasn't 2000 and in both candidates were making really arguments they should not have been making so al gore was saying i want to recount only these 2 counties and george bush was saying i'm ahead right now let's stop counting right where we should have been saying let's count florida let's count was consonant let's count new mexico. some rosenberg is there of is there a fulton american the american electoral system is it just too complicated it is one of the most complicated locus is on the planet maybe it's time to simplify it. it's a. it's a tough question i mean our election system is so decentralized country. you know the listen let's let's hope that i mean as of today this is not going to be a close election and i think that that's actually a significant thing to keep in mind because it creates a structure an

that but if anybody can, i know it'll be you but thank you and nick for helping without book on james baker, you are both generous with your time and recollection to help us make there we got that right, i just wanted to throw that in there too. so i'm going to start off with some pretty big stuff, this is a tumultuous time in our history, here at home and around the world, big things are happening and maybe it's a clichÉ but it feels like a hinged point and i want to get to talking about that, we remember the claddagh closely covenant when you and president bush and how you responded to the challenge, in terms of american fatalities, we are now experiencing a new 9/11 every two and half days. others have had flareups lately but it's on a different scale, i look at the numbers august 1, france had 11 deaths, australia had seven, japan had one, spain and germany had 0, we had 1244. what are we doing wrong, more portly what is the street american leaders, where is is going to lead us in terms of our place in the world, normally a leader in moments like this as we were after 9/11, how do you s

and jaistles baker is also -- james baker is also on twitter's team the.adical dems' farcical articles of impeachment. listen to congressman jim jordan today defending the president and calling out big tech's double standard. >> why is it always conservatives? you never hear about anyone on the left getting censored, it's always conservatives. here's what twitter did just a couple weeks ago. they let the leader of iran, the largest state sponsor of terrorism, put a tweet out that said he will strike a blow against american citizens. that was fine but they censor the president of the united states? so, look, we've got to call them out every time it happens, and when president trump wins re-election and republicans take back the house, we have to hook at the consequences for big tech targeting conservatives. david: and joining me now is hogan gidley, national press secretary for the trump 20 campaign and former principal deputy white house press secretary. 40 goon, good to see you -- hogan, good to see you. the latest from facebook, by the way, what we're he

. >>> developing overnight, former secretary of state james baker and his wife, susan, have now bothted positive for coronavirus. they are recovering in isolation at their home in houston. a spokesperson says the 90-year-old former diplomat is, quote, feeling crumby, but neither of them look like they will need to be hospitalized at this point. obviously, given their age, we wish them the very best. >>> coming up, a double threat. two potential hurricanes expected to make simultaneous landfall on the gulf coast. we have the forecast track and the timing. you're going to want to see this, next. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. ♪ did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance ta-da! we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. so you only pay for what you need? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ whether we see them or not, we need to know that they're always there

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