professor claude with a new book, "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for ourwn." good morning, professor baldwin. what drew you initially to james baldwin, to write about him? ofst: i was initially afraid reading jimmy because of what he would demand of me, but what ultimately drew me to him was his honesty, was his willingness to be vulnerable, and his rage and love. he spoke searingly about the contradictions of the country and spoke these prophetic and poetic truths. he became an example for me, a resource over the years, which led eventually to me writing "begin again." the rage do you take in literature that james baldwin writes about his emotions and translate that into actionable things that people can do in their daily lives, and the current crisis that is going on with racial issues in our country? ways, if you are not angry about the current state of the world, then something is wrong. it seems to me that if rage or anger isn't a part of your emotional economy in this moment, then you're not paying attention to the world. but what baldwin insisted up

and then talked about james baldwin's language.ldwin deployed the term and there was some up set at a student enunciating the term. well, it seems to me that people should be able to understand the difference between the racist use of this epithet in a pedagogical deployment of the epithet in order to really reveal the problem of american racism. >> so, let's define then the context in which professional randall kennedy thinks it is appropriate. is it narrowly confined to the classroom setting? >> no, it's not necessarily. i mean, a lot of learning takes place in classrooms. but, you know, just suppose you're at dinner. education takes place in lots of domains of american life. it seems to me the important point here is, the use of the word to demean people, insult people, terrorize people, that's terrible. that should be condemned. on the other hand, if you are in a discussion and you are talking about the way in which -- until relatively recently there were politicians who routinely used the infamous n-word to refer to black peop

ground can i just ask you right at the beginning there's a lot of quoting of the great writer james baldwin at the moment he actually wrote an open letter to you what did he mean when he said our bodies must render impossible the corridor to the gas chamber well of course james baldwin was. not only percent greater but also he was involved in a whole range of social justice issues and he took up my case wrote an open letter to me and. argue that if they did not protect my life the same would be next if they come for you and the morning he said every do not prevent them from taking you we will be next so that is actually. that is actually very seem of the mass movements have developed against racism against the signage and any against climate injustice etc of course the words reverberate starkly today because of the use of the word gas chamber in the state of california. still has a gas chamber it's ok it's that quick prison and the site of many demonstrations over the last few years precisely because of the fact that prisons and and courage the spread of covert 19 to oakland where your spea

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when he said our bodies must render impossible the corridor to the gas chamber well of course james baldwin was. not only percent greater but also he was involved in a whole range of social justice issues and he took up my case wrote an open letter to me and. argue that if they did not protect my life the same would be next if they come for you and the morning he said every do not prevent them from taking you we will be next so that is actually. that is actually very seem of the mass movements have developed against racism against the signage and any against climate injustice etc .

well of course james baldwin was. not only with a scent writer but also he was involved in a whole range of social justice issues and he took up my case wrote an open letter to me and. argued that if they did not protect my life the same would be next if they come for you and the morning he said every do not prevent them from taking you we will be next so that is actually. that is actually very seem of the mass movements have developed against racism against inside ginny against climate injustice etc of course the words reverberate starkly today because of the use of the word gas chamber the state of california. still has a gas chamber which is located inside quentin prison the site of many demonstrations over the last few years precisely because of the fact that prisons and and courage the spread of covert 19 to oakland where your speaking to me from known quite present progress.

the great writer james baldwin said history is not the past, it is the present. we carry our history with us. we are our history. this is our chance to write a new chapter in our history, our present history and to carry the story of a diverse and loving city and commonwealth forward with us. with that, i would like to introduce the governor of the commonwealth of virginia, governor ralph northam. [applause] gov. northam: thank you so much for your powerful words. thank you for your leadership during these times. pam and i are proud to live in the city of richmond. thank you and good morning to everyone. i want to thank everyone watching from around virginia and around our great country. i want to thank the many guests who have joined us as we chart a new course in virginia's history. honestwe are here to be about our past and talk about our future. i am no historian, but i strongly believe that we have to confront where we have been in order to shape where we are going. than 400inia, for more years, we have set high ideals about freedom and equality. we have fal

stay well and keep it golden. >>> precisely as country. >> that's influential american author james baldwinn's iconic essays and novels explore race, justice, and power in america, most notably during the civil rights era. we asked 18-year-old poet playon patrick to narrate some of ba baldw baldwin's work. ♪ [ chants ] >> it comes as a great shock to discover the country which is your birthplace and to which you owe your life and your identity has not in its whole system of reality evolved any place for you. ♪ >> the brutality with which negros are treated in this country simply cannot be overstated. however, unwilling white men may be to hear it, in the beginning and neither can this be overstated. a negro cannot believe that white people are treating him as they do. he does not know what he has done. >> get out now! >> leave the area, or you will be subject to use of force. ♪ >> and in fact the truth about the black man as an historical entity and as a human being has been hidden from him deliberately and cruelly. the power of the white world is threatened whenever a black man refuses to

only black person who's written a [ bleep ] book i'm like, if i see one more white person quote james baldwinke i don't freaking know -- >> jimmy: we can quote alec baldwin. oh, you're so right. >> yes, and it just feels so performative in a way. i think on a day-to-day level we need to have conversations with each other, we need to listen to black people, we need to amplify black female authors who are also writing on this, black trans authors who are also contribute become police brutality, and sort of just remembering that we are full people who are happy, and yes, we deal with a lot of adversity in terms of racism, but that's not my entire life that's not any black person's entire life. even if you are an activist. so i think not seeing us as human allows these videos to constantly just stay on loop every few years. and i think that's really harmful. so i really want the takeaway to be outside of however long these protests last, that is you see black people for all that they are. >> jimmy: yeah, is that one of the reasons why you started your own production company >> yeah. i mean, i thi

what james baldwin, what lorain handsbury, what martin luther king, jr., what they all understood is that e plubis unum means out of many one. if you have segregated some, you cannot have the full help of american society. look at the pandemic of covid-19. and look at the pandemic of covid-1619. white supremacy, social injustice, economic inequality, joined together to the body. in both instances, we can't breathe. we can't breathe because of police brutality. we can't breathe because of a pandemic of covid-19. this is where the convergence of the natural order and the convergence of our man-made laws can really worked de eed to the disadvantage of black people in this country. only when we can emt brabrace e other and tell the truth about the way the death of black people is a fetish. america is addicted to black death, and this is part of the problem in american society. >> professor dyson, you lay out so much there that i want to go through. stay with me. i want to tell viewers here who are joining us, and we're approaching around 6:40 eastern, in washington, d.c., what we're seei

first american woman to be awarded the nobel peace prize in 1931 jane addams american novelist james baldwinactivists george choy spanish playwright federico garcia lorca senior sylvester james poet, tennessee williams astronaut sally ride and novelist virginia woolf among many many others. >>and be sure to join us this weekend for our kron 4 news special celebrating 50 years of pride, it will air both saturday and sunday nights at 10. a developing story in san jose, a woman who is accused of intentionally coughing on a baby works for a bay area school district it happened at a yogurtland on cottle road you're looking in store. a video police say the coffin woman apparently was upset the mother was not following social distancing ball waiting for an order so police says she coughed on the woman's baby. the oak grove school district in san jose says it's aware of the alleged incident and says the unidentified employer, least they're not releasing the name is currently off work not providing services to students, the district says it is cooperating with police. one person is dead after an over

i wake up every day and i'm reading james baldwin, i'm looking at david chapelle‘s great 8 minutes, 46i am sitting here focused on the times. i am a person that believes that without the past you can't have a future, you can't go forward into the future. the past is always present. so if tom ford said that, i think he is right to have his own opinion, and i think that anna wintour will be at the top of the mountain for as long as she wants to be. and of course, conde nast has appointed a black editor to the uk edition of vogue, edward enninful. does that signify something important or is it perhaps reading too much into one position? it's extraordinarily important what happened with mr enninful. he's a friend of mine, and when he got the job i congratulated him in an e—mail and he said, "thank you, andre, you have paved the way." and he continues to say that, that i paved the way. they made me feel very proud. they made me feel good that he would admit that i paved the way. no—one is saying that i paved the way except edward enninful. it is extremely important in defining the future of

. >> guest: james baldwin said we're trapped by traditions of history we don't even know. my notion is that everybody is shaped by the experience of slavery. think about it. all aspects of american life. politics, economic life, cultural life, was always shaped by slavery. in fact, economically at the beginning of the civil war, more money was invested in slavery than in business and railroads combined and in essence the traditions of enslave., the treatment of black people in terms of the police and in terms of mass incarceration, always been shaped by that history if think everybody regardless of race is shaped in profound way biz the african-american experience. in many ways what the african-americaner and happens has pointed to is almost every time the country has made great leeps forward in terms of fairness and democracy and citizenship, from fruiteds were imbedded in moment. so in some ways we are all shaped by words from frederick douglass or ella baker, we're all shaped by the african-american experience every day of our lives. >> host: the next question from some

baldwin is the inspiration behind and subject of the new book from professor at princeton university, eddie glaude jr. our friend. entitled "begin again, jameserica". and it's out today officially. congratulations. obviously we had a bit of a conversation yesterday but to kick off today's discussion we want to read this passage from your book, quote, baldwin's understanding of the american condition cohered around a set of paractices that, taken together, constitute something i will refer to throughout this book as the lie. the idea of facing the lie was always at the heart of jimmy's witness, because he thought it, as opposed to our claim to the shining city on a hill, was what made america truly exceptional. the lie is more properly several sets of lies with a single purpose if what i have called the value gap is the idea that in america white lives have always mattered more than the lives of others then the lie is a broader and powerful architecture of false assumes by which the value gap is maintained. these are the narrative assumptions that support the everyday order of american life, which means we breathe them like air, count them as

i've been reading and thinking about james baldwin for almost 30 years now. haunted my thoughts, how to think about america. i think he's one of the most insightful critics of american democracy from the vantage point from black experience. there's also this delicate balance in his work between rage and love. there's a kind of righteouses indignation that seeps from every sentence. and then there's this kind of -- this love that emerges in the way in which he's willing to be vulnerable. he has this wonderful revelation in order to say something significant about the country, to criticize the country, we have to examine the messiness of our own lives. also i think for this moment, it is his balance between despair and faith. baldwin lived to see dr. king assassinated. he lived to see the country turn its back on the civil rights movement. he understood what reagan's election meant for all the sacrifices that he engaged in, but yet he still held the faith that america could be better, that we could, in fact, be a new jerusalem. i wanted to figure out how he held

first american woman to be awarded the nobel peace prize in 1931 jane addams american novelist james baldwin, activists george choy spanish playwright federico garcia lorca senior sylvester james poet, tennessee williams astronaut sally ride and novelist virginia woolf among many many others. we'll be sure to join us this weekend for our kron 4 news special celebrating 50 years upright so that's going to be airing both saturday. >>and sunday at 10:00pm so make sure you tune in. >>next on the kron 4 morning news calls to defund police have been hurt across the country, we'll find out how the city of oakland's taking steps to do just that. and i will tran live in front of san quentin prison over the next several days thousands of low-risk inmates could be released from prisons throughout our state. >>coming up, i'll tell >>welcome back everyone that i'm 7.29 marty wealth to a foggy start like my fingers across i'm hoping that we'll get some more sunshine today. >>well, you know what the guy who can clear it all up is right over there morning robin good morning and good morning everybody robin

he's also the author of a new book called "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own." i'm excited. i got my advanced copy. i haven't had a chance to start it yet, but i plan to in the next couple weeks. what do you think of the changes we're seeing, not at the federal level, but at the city and state level, specifically in colorado? >> i think this is a wonderful first step in the sense that we know that local and state governments are trying to address the reality of policing in their particular domains, and it's reflected, too, craig, of the nature of change in this particular moment, that it has to be a kind of bottom-up chain. we can't expect washington, d.c. to do anything significant because the partisanship is so bitter and so poisonous. i think it's important that we see local municipalities. we heard the mayor of houston, we see across the country as they try to address at least in this initial stage solve basic common sense reforms on the way to i think more fundamental reform of how we think of public safety in the country. >> the president, as

first american woman to be awarded the nobel peace prize in 1931 jane addams american novelist james baldwin, activists george choy spanish playwright federico garcia lorca senior sylvester james poet, tennessee williams astronaut sally ride and novelist virginia woolf among many many others. and be sure to join us this weekend for our kron 4 news special celebrating 50 years of pride that will be airing both saturday and sunday at 10:00pm. so go. californians will vote on whether universities can consider race when admitting students. >>what has to happen for affirmative action to become law and a new pilot program launching soon in oakland who will be responding to nonviolent 911 calls instead of police and house democrats passed a sweeping police reform bill after refusing to work on th >>house democrats have passed a sweeping police reform bill it is called the justice in policing act but now is the bill gets ready to head to the senate republicans and democrats will need to sit down and negotiate with both both sides that don't seem willing to do that and we're lucky reports from washin

. >> what i meant by that comment, that comes from a -- a famous really black mind in james baldwin thatonce said it people to be black in america is to be conscious is to be in a constant state of rage. and that means not limiting yourself to what is going on, not ignoring it, even though it is going on nearly every week, but continuing to expose yourself to it, continuing to watch these deaths and i think rage and anger and emotions allow you to act and take action. >> you, why your comme in your called for peaceful protests. what do looting and acts of violence, what does that do to the broader message to you? are you concerned about that? >> you know, honestly, don't want to focus on it. i think america, i think that mainstream media has to refocus their energy not on the oppressed, not on the results of a broken system, but on the oppressors. on the people that are really initiating these acts. i think once we focus on the system, the system is broken. it is a system based on systematic racism, on keeping a specific population of people down. once we focus on the system, we start to

first american woman to be awarded the nobel peace prize in 1931 jane addams american novelist james baldwin, activists george choy spanish playwright federico garcia lorca senior sylvester james poet tennessee williams astronaut sally ride and novelist virginia woolf among many many others. >>and be sure to join us this weekend for our kron 4 news special that celebrates 50 years of pride it will air both saturday and sunday at 10:00pm. and coming up. this morning. the calls to defund the police departments have been heard across the u.s. will find out how the city of oakland is taking steps to do just that. >>and we are just days away from thousands of inmates from prisons like sam quinn that they could be released before their sentence >>9.29 this thursday morning welcome back to the kron 4 morning news, let's go ahead and get the forecast from dave spahr hide a mardi good morning. good morning everybody and live shot coming in from timber on here as we still in the battle, the fog here as we can see still looking for some blue does it off in the distance just a touch here we have this al

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first american woman to be awarded the nobel peace prize in 1931 jane addams american novelist james baldwin, activists george choy spanish playwright federico garcia lorca senior sylvester james poet, tennessee williams astronaut sally ride and novelist virginia woolf among many many others. >>and be sure to join us this weekend for kron 4 news special celebrating 50 years of pride, it will be airing both saturday and sunday at 10:00pm. >>and coming up we'll have a sneak peek at your 4th of july forecast and >>joining other government agencies now calling for police reform bart's board of directors is signaling that it wants to relieve its officers from dealing with certain types of incidents among them drug use and homelessness conference and kerman explains. >>during parts online board meeting thursday, the board majority voted to have its staff rethink what type of incidents park police respond to. >>i think this is a good opportunity to accept the challenge of black lives matter and the people around the bay area who called bart board deepen the police and to really take resources that

of pushed at those hedges throughout his life and writing is of course the legendary and great james baldwin. a new book called "begin again." i happen to have an advanced copy which i have been making my way through and enjoying tremendously. that comes out tomorrow and you should definitely check it out. thank you, eddy. >> thank you, chris. i appreciate you, man. >>> don't forget that tomorrow we're hosting a special town hall event. i will be joined by the mayors of los angeles, atlanta, minneapolis and new orleans to talk about the calls for change happening in their cities, how they're navigating the tensions there, pulled in different directions often. if you want to ask your mayor a question, please send us that question. make sure you join us at the front lines of change tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >>> another stunning supreme court decision, now handing abortion rights advocates a surprise win. why chief justice roberts sided with liberal justice and what it means after this. each one suffering with a story that breaks your heart. like ravette, who needed help, because eve

"invisible man" by ralph ellison, and sa, by james baldwin, i suggest you take a look at "why are allg together in the cafeteria?" then i suggest some biographies, at their own my own biography. americans knowing more about each other is the surest path to keeping america beautiful. >> dana: that's a lot of reading assignments but those are all excellent books on good choices. greg? >> greg: he didn't even add "greg gutfeld's of the joy of hate" and i am offended. minneapolis firefighter had hoped to open a sports bar after the coronavirus restrictions lifted but his life's work was destroyed during the looting and fires that swept through the city. a gofundme was set up to raise the funds to build the black firefighters bar where goals were exceeded with over $1.1 million raised to help him rebuild, 55,000 donors from across the country have also given more than $4.6 million to help small businesses in minneapolis is lake street rebuild. over 360 businesses that were damaged and need help. welovelake street.com and the midtown global market still accepting donations to restore these

princeton university, also an msnbc contributor and the author of the new book called "begin again: james baldwin'smerica and its urgent lessons for our own." mr. glaude, joe biden is campaigning mainly in towns and cities close to where he lives in delaware. these polls would suggest, eddie glaude, would suggest it's a strategy that's working for him. can joe biden become president of the united states without campaigning actively? >> well, i think he can just allow donald trump to swing wildly. every time donald trump swings, it seems to throw himself off balance. what those polls suggest to me, craig, is something very clear, that donald trump is taking a hit with regards to how he's handled the coronavirus crisis. he's taken a hit in how he's handled the economy. we haven't seen this kind of devastation since the great depression. he's taken a hit, i think, with regards to the racial discord in the country. the way in which he's responded to covid-19, it's kung flu. the way he's talked about the economic crisis, he's only talking about what it was like before the chinese virus, and the way in w

that quote from james baldwin is what he called an immutable law. joy reid.n. polls show support for re-election is cratering across the country. new polling from "new york times" shows trump losing to joe biden by significant margins, in a half dozen swing states. biden up by 11 points in michigan and wisconsin. up by 10 in pennsylvania. and 6 in florida. nobody

james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own. thanks so much. >>> before we finish today, at 1:30 p.m. at know your values instagram, yasmin vossoughian is joined for a discussion on black women leaders then and now. head to underscore know your value on instagram at 1:30 p.m. today. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the conversation right now. >> thanks, mika. >>> hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle. it's monday, june 29th. here are the facts at this hour. the number move to coronavirus cases is rising. in two dozen states across our nation. more than 41,000 cases were reported on sunday. the total jumping to more than 2.5 million people over the weekend. overall, more than 126,000 americans have lost their lives. but the global death toll now passing 500,000. the united states has seen a quarter of all covid deaths in the entire world. same with the overall number of cases which is now over 10 million worldwide. but while the hard-hit countries like russia, spain and the uk are seeing case comes down sharply,

i would recommend, "i am not your negroo the documentary on james baldwin.ne is holding the question to you, and, you know, is it like are you really curious or do you want to feel better about yourself that you had this exchange and then you feel like okay my work is done. it is not black history. this is our shared history. this is american history. we have a unique patriotism in this country. it would behoove everybody to understand it. we talk about diversity. when i say black people i mean black people but i also say there is a shared history in learning and responsibility in learning about all communities of color because this country hasn't been -- i think what a great time in this moment to understand because we have to figure out how to live together. there are things that are not so high brow. you look at hbo's "insecure," this beautiful body of work, and this is something that talks about being a young woman in your late 20s and early 30s and dating and what life is like for you, navigating career path when you're the only black person. there is a

what james baldwin called the slave code that undergirds american policing. michelle alexander, the author documented as the new jim crow. whatever you want to call it or knew wannuance you apply, they the critique that this thing we're living through that so many people are protesting against, this problem is such a problem because it is larger than individual people, which means even when the political leadership is more diverse, or when police forces are more diverse, the systemic problems don't just melt away, they can persist or deepen regardless of the individuals who are plugged into certain roles, precisely because these critiques i just mentioned, they argue that if our laws are still built on race, if our system is still fundamentally racially unfair, then the people carrying it out can be pulled and assumed into the problem. so you know, some politicians and pundits started suggesting, you may have heard this, last week and before, they started suggesting maybe it was time for the protesters to wrap up this stage, to move on to other things, to twe

that quote from james baldwin is what he called an immutable law. joy reid. donald trump is in a full meltdown. polls show support for re-election is cratering across the country. new polling from "new york times" shows trump losing to joe biden by significant margins, in a half dozen swing states. biden up by 11 points in michigan and wisconsin. up by 10 in pennsylvania. and 6 in florida. nobody is ever up by 6 in florida. even in arizona, a traditionally red state, biden leads by seven points, and ahead by a stunning nine points in south carolina, a state he and barack obama won when he was elected in 2008. dismal numbers for his re-election likely reflect the degree to which trump is mismanaging the response to three simultaneous cries east, the raigs injustice, continued spread of coronavirus, and ongoing economic decline triggered by the pandemic. 1.5 million americans filed for unemployment just last week. furthermore, the international monetary fund says the usgdp will plummet 8% this year, far more than its earlier estimate. after defying health recom

there's a wonderful line by james baldwin where he says the great force of history comes from the fact that we carry it within us. history is always present. it's moving us about in interesting sorts of ways. in this moment where it seems the country is on the cusp of a transformation, it makes sense there's this confrontation with our past and what we've done with that past. remember now, what was the motivation behind the chaos in charlottesville? it had everything to do with the debate around the robert e. lee statue in charlottesville. there was an argument that somehow that statue represented american heritage, when, in fact, it represented the lie of the lost call. as we see this conflict and this battle around public memory and history, it is a battle really about what kind of story are we going to tell about ourselves in this moment as we aspire to be different. >> eddie, even in the deep south we're seeing universities stepping up, making significant changes to their campuses that have been pushed for years. take, for example, the university of alabama that is presently removi

james baldwin was fond of saying, fond is the wrong verb.ee in real time his base believing it. thinking that this is just a one off. that the reality of systemic racial bias and policing at the depth of the problem in the criminal justice system is just simply us reveling or waddling in our victimhood, right? so the challenge before us is still there. the murder of george floyd didn't resolve the deep partisan divides. covid-19 didn't end how those divides play along the lines of racial divisions. our country stands on a knife's edge and we have to recognize that. even as we see a family grieve, rely on its faith and hope and pray that the country will actually live up to the true meaning of its ideals and principles. >> we're also joined by alexi who stood on the front lines of both crisis, coronavirus as well as the demonstrations, the peaceful ones and in the earliest days, some of the ones that were out of control for a few moments in those earliest nights. tell us what you heard from the leaders you interviewed. >> thank you for having

this is in music, this is in poetry, this is in james baldwin speech. brittney, this is what if you are listening, this is what has been said forever. >> it is what has been said. but look, every generation must find their work and do it both france ferdinand and audrey have versions of that quote where they say that is the work of each generation. this generation is living up to their work, which is to call this country to account. what i appreciate about you bringing that up is there were always massive slave uprisings, and slave people didn't just take slave have i sitting down. there were always uprisingsed on transportation. rosa parks wasn't the first person to sit down on a bus and refuse to get up. and there have been multiple generations in my lifetime rising up against these police violence cases whether we're talking about eleanor bumper, whether we're talking about rodney king, what we're talking about amadou dalio, whether we're talking about michael brown. this is a long continuous challenge. but i do think we have to give credit to these

and how james baldwin can lay out a reality 50 years ago that sounds like it was written yesterday and that's activism and that's work and participation. worry sometimes as we debate strategies, people start thinking there is one way of doing things. the more specific we are practical in the short-term as well as visionary in the long-term, better off we are going to be. with that, i'm going to be quiet because you don't need to hear . om i want to say how much i appreciate all of you. and the conversation is going to continue. >> let me thank for the hard work that was on display. and nicole is going to take a few questions. so not everyone has the opportunity to watch questions. so that's another reason you should come in. nicole will pose a couple of questions. and we will be spending resources and created a google group and continue this conversation. nicole, let me bring you to field those questions. >> thank you everyone. tons of great questions as the el mentioned, we can first question from our young people. media's how have the portrayal of frequent violent riots effected work

james baldwin said something, i wrote this down. thi i think he's a writer i idealize.othing that is faced can be changed but nothing can be changed unless it's faced. i wonder what you think of what we're seeing tonight, what you've been seeing in los angeles and all around this country. >> well, you know, the protesters have a right to protest as long as is peaceful. anderson, we don't want to see the looting. we don't want to see buildings and businesses burned down because what people have to remember is that minorities probably work in some of those businesses as well then you don't really hear the message as loud and clear when you have looting and you have buildings burnt. we want to get back to peaceful protesting pause what we saw on that video was outright outrageous. george floyd got murdered by that police officer. that's why the black community has really never trusted the police is because there's been a lot of george floyds in our community that hasn't been reported or seen and people who live in black america know that. only reason now that we're acting

eddie glaude jr., princeton university, author of "james baldwin's america and the urgent lessons forur own." nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt and hugh hewitt, host on the salem radio network. i want to begin with an answer that has made the rounds in the political world and it was an answer the president gave to a simple question sean hannity asked him, what's your agenda for a second term? here it is, hugh hewitt. >> what are your top priority items for a second term? >> one of the things that will be really great, the word experience is still good. i always say talent is more important than experience, i've always said that. but the word experience is a very important word, it has a very important meaning. i never did this before, i never slept over in washington, i was in washington i think 17 times, all of a sudden i'm president of the united states, you know the story, i'm riding down pennsylvania avenue with our first lady and i say, this is great. but i didn't know very many people in washington, it wasn't my thing. i was from manhattan, from new york. now i know

and to paraphrase brother james baldwin, committee we can make america what it must become. join us in taking a step forward. >> such good perspectives. and abc7 news anchor dan ashley has been watching our discussion today. and dan, i'm curious what you are thinking and observing as you're watching. >> well, kumasi, thank you so much for including me on this incredibly profound conversation. i've enjoyed thoroughly and learned from it and benefitted from it. i think like so many of my colleagues, i would say that i was sickened, as we all were by what we saw happen to george floyd. hard to believe. we know it happens far too often in this country. but it's so difficult to watch. i couldn't sleep for hours a couple of nights after it happened. but watching everyone speak today and hearing this conversation, i find a sense of purpose in all of this. and we have to try to look for the good in what's happening, and we have so far to go in this country. i was rereading as i have read many times and watched many times dr. king's "i have a dream" speech delivered on august 28th, 1

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