>> if you see me afterwards, i'm starting a james buchanan forum. [ laughter ] >> with only two people. >> volunteers could meet in the closet in the back. >> well, at the end of 1861, what turned out to be but the first year of the civil war, abraham lincoln sent his first annual message to congress. he ended it by saying, the struggle for today is not altogether for today, but it is for a vast future also. he meant, of course, that american democracy preserve could yet, as he put it earlier, like the world. but he also knew a vast future of death and destruction might be necessary to achieve that goal. to do less than defend the country, he believed, would guarantee, as he put it, that all of liberty shall be lost. to lincoln and to jefferson davis and the populations they led, it was a war worth extending for years to come. all dreaded it. lincoln remembered of the day he began his presidency. all sought to avert it, by which he meant war. both parties deppricated war, ad others would make war rather than let it perish. and the war came. and as we learned today in our panel about 18