we are talking to james carafano of the heritage foundation.r: i totally disagree with the previous caller. basically, he was saying that the united states should keep their noses in just our business, and let the united world deal with their own issues. we are the leader of the free world. without us, there would not be a free world. all other countries would not have role models or people to buckle up for as far as independence and freedom. i totally agree with what the president is doing with allowing the international community to come together and figure out a resolution to this problem. we have come -- for we have become bankrupt to do too many wars, and many things we are doing for other countries. we are giving humanitarian aid. we are giving all of these different incentives to different countries, but now we are on the brink of economic downfall. we need other countries to come together, and we all work together to deal with universal issues. guest: the first thing i want to make clear is that regardless of the cost of this war, defen

earlier i could appreciate the libretto co-founder of veterans for rethinking afghanistan and dr james carafano senior defense analyst for the heritage foundation and i asked them just that. well i think because i would agree with it i mean first of all why you there we would argue there because the u.s. has a legitimate interest in being there but having afghanistan being a haven for the taliban and al qaeda doesn't work very well didn't work well before nine eleven and so when you're an interest you stick you get it right. and i think that there has been a change. and so that shows that you can do things or i change the way what kind of changes that are there have not james there hasn't been change i mean the last year was the worst year in terms of afghan deaths in terms of afghanistan last year was the worst was the years we're here to since we were u.s. casualties and oh by the way the biggest nightmare of all probably the worst case scenario every year we've been in afghanistan a proven public approval rating inside of pakistan has decreased and a poll came out two weeks ago pakistani app