>> only time in my life saying james caravelle is right.s and get into real america, people don't support these radical policies. people don't support men in women's bathrooms. people don't support the idea of gender fluidity and not something people want thrown on their children and coaxed into believing they can change their gender. so, look, the radical left has had it is way for some time now. we'll see how it all works out in a number of arenas, whether in elections or somewhere else. elizabeth: gene, thank you. can we ask why did california governor gavin newsom dodge 60 minutes asking whether he's going to run in 2024? we're going to break it down next on "the evening edit". ♪ what do we always say, son? liberty mutual customizes your car insurance... so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. now you get out there, and you make us proud, huh? ♪ bye, uncle limu. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ - it's payback time. all these years you've worked hard, you've fixed it,

democrat strategist james caravelle is warning about biden's chances in '24.rs don't want this and that's in poll after poll after poll. you can't look at what you look at and not feel some apprehension here. david webb with us this morning. david, let me come out with it and say i think the democrats want biden team to move out because they don't think they can win. in politics, you've got to win. >> yeah, and the bottom line for this and when you look at a lot ovamericans make ago decision between octogenarian and next generation, thinking about it, that's where the population is. democratting over the -- democrats over republicans and that's rare, they know how to play the win game better no matter who they put in and push the policies and intermix obama, clinton identities, biden i, it es and mixed government. if biden doesn't fit, kick them out and put the next guy in. there's a voter strategy. stuart: think he'll get out? senior republicans come along and say, mr. president, time to move aside. ms. vice president, time to move aside. >> i don't think inv