james carville remains with us. still laughing at mitch mcconnell spending a sleepless night quaking in his bed that schumer and durbin quoted him on a placard today. so this will be open warfare. i'm going to show you part of an interview trump gave to wgn in chicago because there's a reason to discuss the following answer. >> and nobody thought we had a problem. if you look at early, people weren't thinking we had a problem. dr. fauci a month and a half later thought there was no problem. the cdc is people that have been there for a long time, long before me, and i -- i also don't like the fact that they send out mixed messages. i'll give you an example. wear a mask, don't wear a mask. you know, at one point they were saying don't wear a mask. dr. fauci said don't wear a mask. everybody was talking about like masks were a bad thing. then they come like masks are the greatest thing you can do. you know, you get all these different messages. >> so, james, how is he going to run against elements of his own government

, and then they're touching the plate that can't be good >> that was from tonight's town hall james carville remains with us james, please give me your reaction to a president who is not just not advocating the wearing of masks in a pandemic with projections that we could save 40,000 to 60,000 lives. he is sowing doubt about masks in the middle of a pandemic. >> this is a president that attacks fallen soldiers. this is a president that has lied, i don't know, 21,214 times. this is a president that denies any responsibility for the greatest public health crisis we've had in this country for 100 years. there's very little that he can do that would astonish me or surprise me. but what i really thought about tonight was his inability to relate to other human beings and why would they put him in a situation like that where, you know, voters don't like when other voters are treated cruelly or rudely. and it's one thing if he wants to treat speaker pelosi or vice president biden rudely they're politicians. they're big people but i mean the first rule you learn in politics is you don't -- you don't

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but as james carville said and as lawrence o'donnell said, to what end? he didn't succeed at all in advancing the trump campaign narrative about joe biden, which is that he's addled and senile and not up to the job. and, no, joe biden was on sharp and on top of it and right there and actually trying to engage in a conversation. so he didn't help himself there, and i wonder if he did anything but cast into doubt the remaining two presidential debates because i don't -- i'm not sure what the point would be in repeating this exercise if this is what it's going to be like. the american people didn't learn anything really except that donald trump is a bully. they already knew that. >> claire, i imagine when you were in the u.s. senate, regardless of who voted for you or did not, you regarded the people of missouri as your constituents from kansas city to karthage down to joplin. what about the dissonance on display tonight? the president speaking in the third person about his home city, new york city, and how it may never come back, mentioning a laundry list o

let's begin this hour with james carville. autoes a democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst. james, welcome. >> thank you. good to be here, joshua. >> what do you think is the top line of this report? we're talking about an extensive -- it prints out to 47 pages and there's a lot of detail her. what stood out the most from the report. >> the "times" says they will keep on reporting this. this is just the original story. we're going to have this another two or three weeks. when you combine that with awful polling numbers the president had this morning from polls that were coming in, national polls, statewide polls, battleground polls, you see this is a man under enormous stress. he knows he's going to lose the election. he knows he's in terrible legal jeopardy. in my opinion he's trying to negotiate a way he can leave with a pardon from new york state authorities and somehow live the rest of his life out in some kind of peace. but he's in a world of political trouble, and i suspect he's in a world of legal trouble here

let's begin this hour with james carville, he's a democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst. james, welcome. >>. >> thank you, good to be here, joshua. what do you think the top line is of the report? it prints out to 47 pages. there's a lot of detail in here. what stood out the most from this report? >> that the "times" says they're going to keep on reporting this, this is just the original story. we're going to have this another two, three weeks. when you combine that with the just awful polling numbers that the president had this morning from polls coming in, you see what's going on here. this is a man under enormous stress. he knows he's going to lose the election. he knows he's in terrible legal jeopardy. and my pinion, he's trying to negotiate a way that he can leave with a pardon from the new york state authorities. live the rest of his life out in some kind of peace. he's in a world of political trouble. i suspect he's in a world of legal trouble and got more and more of this coming between now and not just the election but all the way past the election. >> i wonder wh

that claire to quote vintage james carville it's the economy stupid and you remember the gipper are you better off than you were 4 years ago what do you think brings people to the polls claire. well again i really think it's about turnout and i think with such a polarizing candidate like donald trump i think we have a lot of people who are definitely going to vote just to keep donald trump from having another term and i'm one of them a lot of my friends are so that's that's where we are and then on the other side my friends who love donald trump man they love donald trump they're not voting for joe biden they're not totally for anybody else so that's i think what we're really looking at suny it is really more about turnout if you look at michigan a state hillary clinton lost so so i am just a sliver back in 2016 that's a state that i think is easily going to come back for joe biden and so he's got to pull back michigan is going to pull back pennsylvania and then he's going to get one other state so it really just depends on those people in florida arizona north carolina have high hopes

james carville, that's who we're calling stupid, and he would accept that. >> chuck, as always, thanks so much. we look forward to seeing you a week from now and hope you join chuck for this morning's "meet the press." he'll have multiple issues including with the chair of the republican national committee. and with peter strzok. tune in to "meet the press" at 8:00 a.m. right after this newscast. you know coming up in about 30 minutes from now we will talk with our political analyst larry gerston for our weekly segment. we'll continue to take a look at the latest revelations from "washington post" reporter bob woodward's book about president trump. >>> okay, shifting gears just a little bit, some good news for the state's fight against coronavirus. california's 14-day average testing positivity rate is just at 3. %. that's the lowest it's been since the start of the pandemic. the number of daily new cases is continuing to drop as well. just yesterday the state confirmed more than 4,100 new cases. sounds like a lot but take a look at this. it shows the number of daily new cases since ma

james carville had an interesting way of describing it. it's pittsburgh in the west, pennsylvania in the west and alabama in the middle. there's southeast pennsylvania but northeast pennsylvania is slightly different. parts of western pa. walk me through where you think biden has some places to make end roads that he has to do to win and where trump has to recover. >> sure. i see it this way. i think in south eastern pennsylvania biden is going to overperform against hillary clinton. i think in the northeast part of the state you have culturally conservative democrats where trump overperformed. biden needs to cut into trump's advantage there. in south western pennsylvania it's similar. culturally conservative democrats where trump overperformed. the central part of the state is conservati conservative. less voters but more intensity for trump than there was for bush or mccain. i think the critical part of the state is south central pennsylvania. it's socially skeconservative, it's become more suburban and you're seeing things trend a littl

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remember when james carville said it's the economy, stupid. and he sort of felt this was getting beneath him. we forget that debates haven't been always there. 1960, we had the kennedy-nixon debates but we didn't have presidential debates all the way until 1976. and there was some feeling particularly by george h w bush that debates were a waste of time. that it was all about owning a sound bite and not about building an organization or running the country was about. but it didn't help president bush to be looking -- glancing at his watch in that regard. and i think it cost him in the election. perot and clinton did better in these debates than bush. >> how did ross perot fare in the debates in the eyes of the public? >> well, i thought, you know, i agree with doug that he probably won the debates. and when george bush looked at his watch, it sort of reinforced the idea that people had that he was not really engaged in the campaign. the debates were critical for perot. and when the debates were over, he had risen back up to maybe 21%. in 1996,

james carville, thank you for joining us, and steve schmidt, we appreciate it. we've been wondering, if there's any minds left to change tonight, especially after the four years. with just 13% of voters is a tonight's debate could change how they plan to vote, and in ohio, a longtime swing state, the percentage of voters who have not yet decided is 7%, according to a poll from baldwin wallace university. it is not a big share of the voting bloc, but in a place like lorraine county, ohio, it could be the difference maker. let's bring in senior national correspondent chris jansing. she's in lorraine county. hillary clinton won lorraine county by just 100 voters. i know you're talking to the undecideds out there. what are they going to be watching for tonight? >> reporter: it's so interests. yes, we talked about the issues, but in the end, the world that kept coming up, katy, is character. let me give you two examples said for us that is simply unfair. it's not the same as what happened four years ago. we used the same unfair. >> you can't ask the american people t