with us, james carville and mark mckinnon. james, you know this race very well. i ask you where you put this race, and ask you further, what are, if any, the national lessons for democrats from california? >> well, i don't think as of now we're looking at a 2010 or 2014 kind of year. one of the things democrats are scared of is we have a star turnout model. we're going to find out a lot in virginia come november. you know, it's critical because it's very rare that the winner of the white house will affect the governorship one year later. but kerry has been there before and yunkin has a lot of money, and it's a pretty good test going into 2022. if the democrats lose that, it will be a horrible night. that's the concern. it tells us something but not a lot. >> mark mckinnon, i am never above promoting a good book or television show, and "the circus" on showtime is among the latter category. on sunday night's edition, it is my understanding you have an interview with the republican governor of the state of arkansas. we have a clip for our audience. this is about lea

still with us our friends james carville, and mark mckinnon. mes you know the political situation in person yet very well. i will ask you where you put this race, and ask you further, what are if any, the national lesson for democrats in california? >> well the real, as of now, we are not looking as of 2010 2014. the turnout that's where the democratic standoff is that we have a turnoff. there is not much happening that's been happening so far. we will find out a lot in virginia coming up. you know it's critical because very rare, that the president just wanted the white house to be governorship and just one year. later so it is going to be an important tell. as the focal class. but terry has been there before, and they have a lot of money. there is a pretty good test of going into 2020. two if the democrats lose that it will be a global not for the democratic party. that's for certain. that is for something pamela. >> mark mckenna, i am never above promoting a good book or television show, the circus on showtime is among the latter category. on

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james carville, good to see you, sir. >> thank you, chris. >> what's the secret sauce, and do you thinkas the secret sauce to mend fences? i know that's a mixed metaphor, but go with it. >> right. ben franklin said the secret sauce, we shouldn't hang together. if we don't, we hang separately. i think every democrat, every american needs to know what's at stake at this meeting tomorrow. and ken burns who allegedly knows something about american history says we're 1941, 1861 territory right here now. so, i think the president has got to do this and i think the democratic party expects democratic members of congress to forge ahead and vote on something together, vote for it first, vote for it second and show the american people you can do something. if you don't, you're going to end up with 240 house republicans and 55 senate republicans. so, you know, the country's at an inflection point here and people have got to have some patriotism and some can-do attitude. it's bad. >> inflection point and infection point. here's what i don't get, james. help me understand that. they know they're up