but we want to talk about solutions and you recently spoke to representative james clyburn about the clyburn amendment which he thinks could be implemented in other programs that reduce chronic poverty. let's listen to this. >> it is called the clyburn amendment. 10, 20, 30. i believe all of these resources coming out of these programs, at least 10% of it ought to be directed into these communities where 20% or more of the population is stuck below the poverty level for the last 30 years. >> so if we're talking about two americas or more, this idea -- this is james clyburn's idea, to try and at least give the worst off in america a leg up. what do you think of this idea? >> first of all, i love the idea and i was a little upset that when he told me i hadn't heard about it in the last three years. he said there was a stimulus bill put into effect in 2009. when you talk about poverty in this country, we have to be honest. a lot of people out there think of african-american and hispanics. the reality is, according to their research, there are 474 of those counties. two-thirds are republ