james connell, has represented baluci since 2008. much of what he knows is classified. >> i'm not allowed to talk about black sites, existence of black sites. >> can we talk about the prison? >> i can neither confirm or deny that there's a dark prison. >> some details of the cia's torture were revealed, including the faims of the people involved but the -- names of the people involved but the world has heard little about them. >> that is his handwriting? >> yes, the first day they shaved his head and they hit his head number russ times. he wrote, i passed out. >> that treatment was called walling, more than a dozen techniques given legal approval aft 9/11. but connell says that and other methods used on belluci left permanent damage. >> things that have led to the deaths of innocent people. can you understand why there might not be a great deal of sympathy for interrogation techniques like this? >> torture doesn't have anything to do with sympathy and it's bigger than any one individual or any group of individuals. torture has to do

there were some ugly moments at a rally in james delta i really have kind captured the attention of television and newspaper media. connell going on with the trump campaign. we talked about other issues earlier in the show. still others may but we won't get to today. all of the coming together in wisconsin. wisconsin has all this attention to itself now with the state voting on april 5th in a molded onto get on to new york and other states. what is it about wisconsin? something about the state where trump is struggling? maybe the radio industry is hurting it. or is it a coincidence and troubled with women, the abortion comments that have been a time wisconsin is voting. >> i would say this. there are rarely specific things about wisconsin. with regard to the other people at the event, remember we had the uprising here. a lot of big protests. we had a lot of yelling people. folks confronting one another on a daily basis, sometimes hourly basis. that was not done in -- i don't think anybody on either side of the aisle once repeated. when you see shades of that, instantly people recoil at the because i was there hard time to