emily: last question, james damore, the engineer who was fired for the memo he sent that argued thaten have biological differences when it comes to engineering and leadership positions, "the new york times" david brooks had a column that said sundar pichai should be fired for firing james damore. what did he have to say? mark: he said that their two fundamental values that the company cherishes can come into conflict. this is free speech, meaning let the issues that ticked off a lot of people at the company. he did take the issue to john hennessy, the former president of stanford, who is on the alphabet board, who has dealt with similar issues around stanford. sundar told us this was a company decision and he was aware there would be consequences outside the company -- emily: was it his decision, or did larry page -- mark: it was his decision. emily: mark bergen, thank you so much. bob, you are sticking with me. that story in the latest issue of "bloomberg businessweek," on newsstands, online, and in the app store. and you can hear more from the magazine's reporters and editors every