emily: james damore, an engineer, was recently fired at google for writing a memo in which he claimedt men are more biologically suited to computers than women. do you think that mistaken assumption or toxic assumption is part of the problem? melinda: i think we all have bias. i think that we need to get under the hood and figure out, how do you create change by designing it out of the system? and yes, i think if you are in one culture that looks a particular way, where it looks like only a white male can get ahead, who went to an ivy league university, you are going to bake more bias into the system. whereas if we design a system where there are different pathways in, we look at the environment, how to design it out. you look at how do you spawn innovation for women and women of color, you will start to actually change the system. emily: in the last few years, you have really recommitted to being a champion for women in technology, in particular. is there a specific moment or reason when you realized someone had to speak up for women in tech, and that that person could be you? melind

politics is transforming our competitive edge was when google fired a young computer engineer named james damoren august o 2017, damore wrote a factual reasoned based ten page memo simply questioning the feminist orthodoxy that reigns at google. he was fired. well one of the interesting comments on the google chat board said we need to stop this diversity -- madness before it goes any further. right now, our hr department is simply an outpost of gender studies andte black studies. >> all right. >> don't forget folks almost everye weeknight you can watch tv, lavin it have at cr tv.com we love you to join us. just give us a call 844lavin tv. we'll be right back. the united states postal service makes more holiday deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. ♪ with one notable exception. ♪ mahe's already married. livin' large? livin' with his mama. entrepreneur? unemployed. oh! and here we see the artist making an attempt to bare his soul. it's just a gray dot. yeah, you can get a mortgage that avoids pmi, but there's no way to avoid mip on an fha. hey! now the ... this'll help. rocket mort