james fagan wants to help people with different political views, find more common ground with what he calls deliberative polls. he compares participants opinions before and after they discuss contentious issues such as immigration and abortion with each other to conduct in one such a experiment with young voters in the summer of 2024. with remarkable results. we find that when people deliver it together, they, they not only come to an informed judgment, but they, the polarize. and to my surprise is the people with the most extreme opinions who de polarize the most people say, the current divisions are calcified. they're a movable but they're not calcified because we see this a move. sabrina boost bar is hosting a meet and greet event that she tries to reach out to voters in her congressional district. i actually believe in working with everyone, right. what a concept you know, but i told her on, you know, obviously we're going to disagree. there's going to be controversy and how do we actually go about it. so, but frank and honest discussions with the other side are in reality, rarely