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let's bring in james fallows a former chief speechwriter for former president jimmy carter.hor of this month's cover story, and it is a long one, for "the atlantic" on these debates. jim, great to see you this morning on "new day." thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. it's long, but thorough and interesting, right? >> it is really interesting. i was wondering what was weighing my bag down last night it was so heavy on my arm. it was your article when i fished it out it's like five pounds. but, but jim are we overstating it to say that this could be one of the most watched television events ever? >> certainly the odds are in that favor. remember the controversy a couple of weeks ago when the schedule was announced by the trump team, they said oh, no these are against nfl games. historically debates have way outdrawn even the nfl by a factor of about three to one. the stakes for this one, the first time we'll ever see hillary clinton and donald trump face to face where they're so different in their styles, their politics, their intellectual approach and everything else, i th

for more on what we can expect when the two meet, i spoke with james fallows who has written the cover story for the atlantic magazine. we have donald trump possibly releasing his health records, and hillary clinton recovering from pneumonia. to what extent will health and transparency around health become part of the presidential debate? james: it is difficult to say what part they will play. i think no one has any clear idea of what moves the real trump supporters. compared with any other candidate in known history, there has been documentation of things that mr. trout says that -- mr. trout says -- mr. trump says that are not true. it does not affect his appeals. his refusal to say anything about taxes, unprecedented since richard nixon, whether that makes a difference any rational person would hazard a guess. katty: if his supporters are stuck on him, how much will the debates affect the course of the race? james: there are political scientists who say debates have on had a demonstrable effect past elections, but they have had an effect with jimmy carter and ronald reagan in 1980.

james fallows has written an extensive piece for "the atlantic agassi," when is from james fallows.ood morning. forer: i have a question hillary and then one for trump and my question for hillary idea be widely gets a good as secretary of state to put a home brewed server in your dealings to hide your from the citizenry. we all do what you did with your server. this was a home router server. why would you think that's a smart thing to do and why would you continue lying about it. my question for donald trump would be what you going to do to be transparent so the citizenry controls the government instead of the other way around? the segment with the clinton book guy, i've never seen a c-span segment so on in my life. i think -- i don't liars anymore. i'm willing to give donald trump a chance. he hasn't lied to me in office yet. host: we are looking at the battleground states in ohio. donald trump is now ahead. let me just read you a portion of what they are saying. in the first debate, it will just be hillary clinton and donald trump are gary johnson did not reach the 15% threshold t

here's six sentences saying why it's not here. >> james fallows of the atlantic, thank you so much foroming on with all of your impressions. >> thank you. >>> what a night. the race has changed because of the debate. the first time we saw trump and clinton on the same stage. we have so much more to cover on this story. "newsroom" with carol costello will pick it up right after the break. see you tomorrow. >>> and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. donald trump and hillary clinton return to the campaign trail today even as the smoke clears from last night's first presidential debate. no sooner had the handshake ended, the claws came out, blistering, insults, accusations on the fly. clinton goes on the attack and puts trump on the defensive. today both campaigns claiming victory. trump goes on the attack. the moderator did not ask tough quti

with me to talk about the state of the race and what we might see monday are james fallows, a formerpeechwriter for dana perino,ter, who served as george w. bush's press secretary and has just weeklyd a new political show on fox news, and frank bruni, a columnist for the new york times. welcome, everybody. i thought we would do two rounds. we will start with frank. what is the most important thing that hillary has to do in the debate? frank: i think she needs to seem genuine. voters have said time and again they are worried about her honesty and trustworthiness. based her a someone who has been in political life for so long, they see her as a vessel of ambition, fulfilling a destiny she charted for herself long ago. i think she needs to convince american voters she has a genuine desire to make their lives better and that she is doing this for them, not for her. >> i am coming back to that because i think she has striven to be genuine. how do you go out there and try to be genuine? but, what do you think? >> i with think she would want to keep the benghazi hearings in mind. she very c

mark, you have been saying -- it was interesting, james fallows of "the lat tatlantic" was sayif you wins watch without the sound but as a citizen, watch with the sound on. the famous nixon/jfk debate, it's what you heard. >> it's all about body language. this is a television event. upwards of 100 million people watching on television. the number will be so much wider globally. then let's not take into account the fact who will watch it online. all of it being cut up and sent around very quickly. i just think that the body language and how they react to one another and if they're able to do it in a way that looks professional and it doesn't look like the opponent is getting under their skin is extremely important. >> it's easy to say that. people say, okay, you control your reactions. that's fine if you're going to be on for six minutes and there are other people on stage. it's fine if it's a shorter debate or you have commercial breaks. this is 90 straight minutes. nobody can truly -- maybe john brennan from the cia, people like that can control their -- control their expressions. >

james fallows, thank you very much. >>> coming up, the art of the debate zinger. >> you're really gettingn badly. i know you're embarrassed. i know you're embarrassed. keep fighting, man. swing for the fences. >> you're never going to be president of the united states by insulting your way to the president. >> i'm at 42 and you're at 3. >> doesn't matter. >> so far i'm doing better. >> doesn't matter. >> we're going to take a look at some of the more memorable moments from previous debates. and what kinds of moussings could the candidates bring to the table tonight? remember when you said that men are superior drivers? yeah... yeah, then how'd i'd get this... allstate safe driving bonus check? ... only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free ... silence. it's good to be in, good hands. >>> welcome back to cnn. i'm erin burnett. you're watching special coverage of tonight's presidential debate. hillary clinton and donald trump are just hours away from their first showdown here at hofstra university. you can expect a lot of fireworks in the form of their o

james fallows, former presidential speechwriter for jimmy carter has written an interesting cover storyhe election. we talked about what we might see tomorrow night. i spoke to him recently. your article is so fascinating. i urge anyone who has not read it to read it. >> thank you. you say the best way to watch a debate is with the sound off. why? >> it's a really strange, surreal situation because the questions, as you'll see, are all about content, and the answers are about nato and tax policy and all that. if we think back to the debates, the ones that made a difference, it is how people carry themselves. are they taken aback? do they seem confident or tense? >> you use the example in your article of lloyd benson and dan quayle. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> benson used the line, you're no kennedy. the image of quayle looking stunned and small permeated his future. >> that stuck with him. even now. he was a much more capable guy than that image suggested. that image stuck with him. d

he is james fallows, national correspondent for the "atlantic" and president jimmy carter's chief speech you so much for coming on. i was fascinated by this. >> my measure. >> one of my biggest take aways is to watch the debate with the tound turned of. do you do that? >> i don't do that the first time, i'm cheating because i'm too curious to hear what they say but if you want to predict what people on cnn or elsewhere will be saying that night or the next morning about who came off more strongly you can do best to watch how people behave, how they hold themselves, do they wince in reaction, how do they look confident or shaken and that seems to be historically what registers with people. it's disappointing but seems to be the actual truth. >> we pulled sound. these are trumps highlights and lowlights. improvised insults from him during the primaries. >> you are all talk and no action. >> name one specific thing you've done. >> first of all, this guy is a choke artist and this guy is a liar. >> this is a tough business to run for president. >> you're a tough guy, jeb, i know. >> we need

james fallows wrote this fascinating cover story about the debate rivalry.correspondent for "the atlantic" and former chief speech writer for president carter. he joins us now. no one understands debate better than you, jim. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> so, how is this going to go in your estimation? >> boy, if i only i knew that i journalist. we can see the traits that each candidate brought in. hillary clinton knows this field cold and donald trump never has before. she needs to show the traits that we know she has and the ones we would like to see she has for this calm confidence in batting donald trump back. >> who will win as a proposition comes down to your premise of what wins in general? what do you believe creates advantage on that stage? >> my experience both in seeing debates back in the jimmy carter era and studying them since then is a matter. the debates are sort of conducted in logic, but they are received in emotion. and people see how candidates carry themselves and who looks comfortable and who looks. the main thing that con

with me to talk about the state of the race and what we might see monday are james fallows, a former speech writer for president cartedder and a national correspondent for the atlantic. dana perino who served as george w. bush's press secretary and has just launched, i'll tell you what, a new weekly political show on fox news. and frank bruni, a columnist for "the new york times." welcome, everybody. >> thank you. >> i thought we would start and just do two rounds. and we'll start with frank. frank, okay, let's go. what is the most important thing that hillary has to do in the debate? >> i think she needs to seem genuine. voters have said time and again they worry about her honesty, her trust worthiness. i think they also see her as someone who has been in political life for so long. they see her in some ways as just this vessel of ambition and fulfilling a kind of destination charter for herself long ago. i think she needs to convince the american voters that she has a genuine desire to make their lives better. that she is doing this for them and not for her. >> okay. i'm coming bac