here to weigh in, are two absolutely essential people, james freeman from the "wall street journal" we also have fox news's james rosen. great to have you both with us. you have the same name. i will be like a school teacher, call you by your whole name. james freeman, let me start with you. >> yes. melissa: this is like a joke and a storm is going on, all non-essential workers don't come in tomorrow. you have toking a big dummy to raise your hand, to say, i'm not essential, i will stay home. if you're not essential, i don't know, doesn't the boss look at their spreadsheet and say -- >> why are they still there? melissa: right. >> sort of reminded of the old reagan joke. he was giveing a foreign dignitary a tour of the white house ground and the guy saw the big old executive office building. he said wow, that is a buying place. how many people work in there? reagan, said, maybe half of them. you really do wonder, if people, if, even if they're deemed essential, more than two million federal workers, civilian workforce, not the military really essential? probably not. melissa: james ros

melissa: james freeman i didn't know you used to work at sec. absolutely terrified with you because i don't know what connections you have. setting all this aside, it's a phone conversation that happened nine years ago. there is no recording of it. their whole case hinges on the fact he was told, you know, we're about to dilute you tomorrow and he sold. there is no tape recording. so i think in spite of what fred just said it is he said, he said. no one can prove what he said on the call. >> it's a he said, he said. keep in mind mr. cuban also acknowledged that he did not answer accurately to the sec originally when he said it was actually his broker who controlled that account. melissa: that's a good point. >> now he acknowledged that actually he controlled it. so it is a lot of money. a few hundred million bucks even for a guy like him that's a big deal. melissa: fred, he saved himself the loss of $750,000 might seem like chump change seems all the trouble. >> wouldn't cover caviar on his yacht of the i don't get it. melissa: i will tell you,

and assistant editor james freeman. your a calm guy. >> sure. >> comment on the calm guy, the president of the united states. he says he won't negotiate with the republicans until they do two things. one, pass a clean increase in the debt limit and a clean continuing resolution, with nothing attached except to fund the government. what's his calculation? >> let me just say i have personally spent four years bending over backwards to be fair to barack obama so let me try to do that right now. they're basically three things that i think he wants. one, that -- this is something people must not forget, because he has said it, he wants to take back control of the house of representatives in 2014. to do that, he has to give voters a reason to vote against republicans. that's going on right now. >> you think that's the underlying motivation here? >> i absolutely think. >> he wants a shutdown? >> i think he would accept a shutdown. >> we have one now. is he enjoying this? >> i think he's absolutely enjoying it. i watched his sp

dorothy, and james freeman, and new jersey resident and voter.is going to win, and maybe big, but what's his record? what is he -- >> well, basically, he has stopped the bleeding in a high-tax, slow-growth state. so he held the line on property tax increases, or restrained them a bit. no motor income -- income tax is and they have big unfunded liabilities. >> his re-election campaign themees, i stopped the bleeding? >> he is going do win big, we know that. i think the real question is whether he has coattails and can flip a house of the legislature to get the state growing, get some real reform? >> where is he falling down thinks state income tax is very high. a cut didn't succeed. and then the state business environment is still not very good. >> i think that's the problem. he needs to go a lot further on reform. new jersey, the unemployment rate of 8-1/2%. all of its neighbors in the sevens in so for the sake of me and my fellow citizens and his presidential as separations, he has to get some reform in the next four years and try to get a vibra

we're back with dan, "wall street journal" and james freeman and new jersey resident and voter. so, let's talk about, he's going to win. and maybe big. but what's his record? what has he accomplished? >> basically what he's done is stop the bleeding in a high-tax, slow-growth state. he held the line on property tax increases or restrained them a bit, held the line, no more income tax increases and made some progress on pension reform. he said he's cut over $100 billion in costs over the next three decades and they have big, unfunded liability. >> his campaign theme is, i stopped the bleeding? >> he is going to win big, i know that. the big question is whether he has coattails and flip one of those houses of the legislature to get the state going. >> where has he fallen down. the state income tax is very high and proposed a cut didn't succeed and the state business environment still not very good. >> i think that's the problem. he needs to go a lot further on reform. new jersey has an unemployment rate of 8.5% and all the neighbors are in the 7s. for the sake of me and my fellow

brian and james freeman are here to try to help us see both side of this. okay, guys.his is the famous quote. a lot of people don't want to in our clothes. are we exclusionary, absolutely. those companies are in trouble trying to target everybody old, fat, skinny. you become totally vanilla. you don't alienate but don't excite anybody. it is hard to hate fat people and get away with it in this country but he doesn't make anything more than a size 10. that is 67% of the people out there. you have to wonder, stock is down 27% in the past six months, sales down 10%. women's sales down 30%. seem like it is not working. what do you think? >> what is your role as ceo? to inspire, vision,. melissa: not to make fun of fat people? >> not to make fun pat people, this guy is walking billboard for crest white strips. the stock underperformed since 1998. more importantly, every store, they're closing 50 stores. every store closure is something he signed off on. big mistake and shareholders play the price. melissa: you're a good sport. tell us what is right with this guy? >> short s

his name was james freeman clarke and he once made the statement. , thinkscian, he said only of the nextction. a statesman thinks of the next generation. speaker tom foley was a true statesman. he believed it was an honor to and hehe public good brought respect for the dignity of our democracy and the inspiration of our mandate as a nation to every moment of his service. he believed it was our calling as members of congress to do what we could to preserve and help create a more perfect union that has been in the making for almost 300 years. knowingof my years speaker foley and seeing him on the floor, i never heard this man, this good man, speak a bad .ord about anyone i just have a feeling that he was one who believes. anything goodsay about someone, don't say anything at all. hea leader, he believed should build and not tear down. reconcile, not divide. he stood for the principles of the diplomacy and mutual respect even toward his opposition. he did not subscribe to the politics of personal destruction . he was a representative of the great state of washington, as a legislator, bigger

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may be morgan freeman or james earl jones. and as you listen to the words of frederick douglass imagine what the black mont man has upon his person and let him get to it eagle on his buttons or a musket on his soldier -- shoulder and bullets in his pocket there is no power on earth that could deny he hazards our bright as citizenship in the united states. who did you hear? [laughter] but after the word drug on over two years with desertion and said casualty's with the unsuccessful draft with the president to prevent. he must sign the formal "emancipation proclamation" that was finally issued january 1st committee to 63. it reads -- dip free allstate's with the exception of those already under union control but it did tempering the slaves of maryland, delaware, a kansas and missouri because the president was fearful to lose those slave holding border states. and also declared the black man could be received into the army. many took advantage with the mixed race regiment thereby creating the fourth category of black soldiers. ag

perhaps paul folkestone or morgan freeman or james earl jones. as you listen to these words of frederick douglass, imagine, once the black men get upon his persons, the lack letter's get an eagle on his button and a musket on his shoulder. .. which was finally issued on january 1, 1863. it freed all slaves in rebellious states with the exception of those in areas already under union control. and it did not free the slaves in maryland, delaware, kansas and missouri. because the president was fearful of losing those slaveholding border states. secondly, the proclamation declared that a black man could officially be received into the army. many immediately took advantage of the new ruling and joined mixed race regiments. thereby creating a fourth category of black soldiers. again, such a number is hard to determine because no racial identification is registered on the military record. hair, i common skin color, as physical characteristics. one such soldier and a mixed-race regiment was medal of honor ruth anderson, a member of the 142nd new york inf

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