but you know, just like james gandolfini would say if he were here, there's some of that that is foreffect. and you have to. i mean, part of what we do -- >> do you like the fact you have this slightly intimidating reputation? >> i don't like or dislike it. it's just kind of what it is. it's who i am. and i think what people in new jersey have gotten to know about me over the last decade that i've been in public life is what you see is what you get. and i'm no different when i'm sitting with you than i am when i'm at home or anyplace else -- >> but right now i'm getting sort of -- this is a very civilized conversation we're having, you're very polite, you're very friendly. but i've seen some of these youtube videos of you in action in these town halls, and you're on the rampage. >> well, and you -- listen, and teachers go into it knowing what the pay scale is. that's right. >> well, what i am -- >> lacerating these people. taking no prisoners. >> i'm responding to -- >> in the words of mr. sweeney, taking them down, stomping on them, and killing them. >> i'm responding to their attem