james pierson, thanks for joining us today. >> tenuous times, times have changed. that's straight ahead. >>> mean while on our show, we'll be joined by former new york city mayor, rudy giulianiled in new york city, this in the last 11 months. >>> remember ben carson's pitch to fix the economy. >> we need a significantly changed taxation system. and the one that i've advocated is based on tithing. i think god is a pretty fair guy. >> turns out that's not the only financial lesson we can learn from the bible. let's look at financial tricks you have missed. >>> we need a significantly changed taxation system. and the one that i've advocated is based on tithing. because i think god's a pretty fair guy. >> typically speaking, ben carson, the doctor was right. it turns out there are tons of valuable financial lessons hidden in the good book. joining us now national financial expert and radio talk show host chris brown. he's also a former pastor. thanks for being with us, chris. we actually have found over 2,350 references to money in the bible. so what can we learn from it, practically speaking every day? >> yeah, it turns out that that book that's on the end table, that gets open