my book tries to appreciate him without treating him only as a profit. >> host: next call for james gleick from larry in north dakota. >> caller: great program and congratulations on your book, mr gleick. the printed book to me is an information delivery device like the book you are showing but so are the e readers, kindle and o no nook. yours is available from kendall on amazon. i like it better than the printed text. those who are concerned about this in the information business, librarians and library. everyone is concerned in the information business about where this is going? what is going to happen down the road in terms of the readers, the book and the printed book? easy question, right? >> guest: certainly a question on my mind because i spent a lifetime making a living creating these things. i like a printed version but i read the books. all my books are available -- i hope in all the available formats. i don't favor any one platform over any other. even my first book, written in an era before he books have been released in the e book format and away that takes the vantage of the

you are on with james gleick. go ahead with your question or comment. >> caller: this is jim in ashland. i much enjoyed your book and program that came with it. chaos theory. i used and 80 mhz pc to run a bunch of stuff more quickly but my question is more cosmic. are you familiar with the controversy that stephen hawking had regarding information on black holes or in black holes and what happens to it? the proof that in quantum mechanics that you can't destroy or create information. i would like to know if the initial bid they have all the information in it that we currently have? >> guest: you left from a little question to the big question. i am going to say this as though tom lehman sergeant want anyone taking this prognostication too seriously. i will say all of the information of the modern world did not exist in the big bank even though the universe developed from the big bang. i love that you brought up stephen hawking black hole paradox because that is a minor episode in my book but a fun episode. part of