. >> james harrigan is a political scientist so between the two of us we have all the bases covered between economics and political science and much ofthe politics that you'll see in the book come from james . >> he's at the university of arizona? >> he is at the university of arizona, he's a professor of political science and he and i have written together 200, 300 and over the past decade. we have a podcast words and numbers and probably several hundred videos on economics, public policy and governance and all of this in an effort to basically publish. whatever age you happen tobe from grade school till retirement . the key to building a more healthy society, to moving all the wonderful things the united states has done and progressing forward into the next generation, the key to it and it sounds trite but true. the key is an educated populace and i don't mean people who can go " shakespeare. i understand how a shared system works. because if they don't, they become fodder for politicians and politicians come along and say a lot to me and i will give you free. and everybody tears and says