joyce vance, matt miller, he signed on to calls for barr's resignation, and columnist for "new york times," author of deep state, trump, the fbi, and rule of law. jameslp me get my arms around this. do you see clear evidence of wrongdoing on bill barr's part, doing the bidding of the president, or does this all just stink? >> it definitely stinks. this is a shocking departure from norms of independence of the justice department that have been clearly established at least since watergate. so far i haven't seen him breaking the law. ess he is appointed by the president, there to carry out his orders. >> matt, so far the department of justice has prosecuted michael flynn, roger stone, and paul manafort is still sitting in jail. at the same time, president trump's foes, no charges against them. friday, andrew mccabe got a letter that said we're all set, nothing is happening. >> i don't think you get credit for not bringing the case with andrew mccabe, the grand jury seems to not indict, left it hangover him four or five months because you didn't want to tell the president the truth that he will find unpopular. should have dropped it in september when it