right now, i am working on a research project that takes james joyce's ulysees, an awesome irish poet and writer, and looks at the role of writer as a catholic priest and the act of writing figs as a consecrating of the sacred. >> okay. >> and writing as a sacred art. >> uh-huh. >> and james joys is your -- . >> i know. interesting fellow. we'll talk about that more. >> we'll be back in in a moment with samantha yee and digital catholicism. . >>> hello, welcome back. we're talking about the internet and about young people. now, samantha, i ride the b.a.r.t. every day and everyone on the b.a.r.t. is glued to his mobile device. >> yeah. >> and i wonder often what they're doing and having met you, it's possible that some of those people are looking at their catholic messages and sending them back and forth. i wanted to talk to you in general about the state of the internet and young people. if we say, i think that is where young people live today, and if you want to reach them for good, that is where you reach them. >> uh-huh. >> and we hear that they're addicted to the internet. we hear

james joyce but i have to say that chomsky and coming up pretty much i have everything of what they have written. more than a job or a career and that's how i make my living with also what i am and who i am and what i love and fortunate because there's nothing else i could do. it chose me i could not be a doctor or lawyer ♪ >>host: another one of your books why orwell matters who was he? >> and englishmen born would have come out to be the centennial he died january 1950 just completing his best-known book in 1984. born in the upper-middle-class father was in the opium business was the imperial drug dealer working for a policeman in burma and to be disgraceful and to be identified as victims of racism that when fascism came he went to spain with the leftist militia and barcelona and backed by the communist but these experiences all the writers of the 20th century that was fascism communism and imperialism with intellectual honesty. never had a steady job or the proper outlet and was suppresse suppressed. so he is my exemplary case of how much a single individual with some nerve can do in

>> guest: james joyce is somebody you can't get around.ries are amazingly simple and while effective, yes, but they also open up people but most no right or i can think of does. the example of ulysses as the monumental modernist novel can't be escaped either. i try to read it a couple of times and find it frightening. i was 15 i think the first attempt ended just reeked of a godless world and universe and i think that that was not a bad reading for a 15-year-old since he was somebody that had gone to a religious education and suddenly something in the world of matter. another book that i've never regret although that i intended to from time to time, it's a book that i own more than i've read also for so long but i did try once and began to work through it. you almost get the the flavor of the sense of holiday. the holiday book full of explanations and irish talk basically. you have to have an irish accent to hear it right, i think. and it's not a book that i think -- a scholar not enough to stick with, and that is a fault of mine indignati