james kallstrom, it's always good to talk to you.about what this fisa warrant -- i want to talk about the fact it appears relatively clear if not absolutely clear that there were fbi agents who made representations to the fisa court that were not correct. every day, jim, we get a little bit more about how the clinton campaign and the dnc fade feution gps, then they got to steele, and then it went to the russians. now we have sidney blumenthal in this mess. who is a pal of hillaries we heard about at benghazi whose emails western accessed and told us she had gotten emails on benghazi. he may be part of the creation of the make believe story. >> yeah. i think it's very, very clear. i think the way you describe it is correct. it's perfectly clear that the files a judges were presented with information that first off was bogus. second off that was paid for by the dnc and the clinton foundation. that knowledge apparently was not passed on. quite frankly, a lot of this information is look more and more like it's coming from this cabal that

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lawmakers to have actually seen the intel behind the memo the underlying content also with me here is james kallstromomb, a former assistant director of the fbi. it's good to have you both on the program thank you so much for joining us. >> nice to be with you. maria: let me set out right off the bat that both of you having worked at the fbi with the fbi, is the experience of having experience with the fisa court, you were both so disappointed to actually learn what you have learned. let me kick it off with you congressman because you saw the underlying data. what's most important that we need to understand from this memo? >> the most important thing not just from the memo but from the underlying documents that i have seen is that full disclosures weren't made to the fisa court and why that's so important, maria, the fisa court unlike any other court in america including the supreme court doesn't hear both sides. this is a court where the government comes forward and in this case they ask for surveillance on american citizens. it's up to the government to make full disclosure and in this case, in ask