anything below 25,000 can be washed out with rain. >> host: james kinter? yes, you raise a number of interesting points. there was sort of from meteorologist and horribly for the nation, an experiment to see what the effect of airplane ises on the atmosphere, which happened in september 11th, 2001 when all airplane traffic was canceled. so we had all of the information at that time of what was going on in the atmosphere with respect to the time prior and the time after the sensation of aircraft travel. and, of course, during the time that we still had all of our satellite data and we were able to do studies. and when i say we, i mean my community. it wasn't something the group did. we did look at the effect of airplane traffic on the atmosphere. particularly contrails. they tend to produce very bright white lines in the atmosphere. if you have enough airplanes, do you produce a lot of reflectance of energy. we found therefore an impact. of course, cutting off all. if we have a situation like we had with irene where a fraction of the airplane traffic is chan