here is one figure, i talked with my friend james lankford about it. only 15% of those lead into the country making asylum claims at the border and up getting asylum. 85% fail. one big thing the border bill did that we voted on last year that would have solved the problem to a large extent was to limit the test at the border. so these are not people coming over the wall or swimming in the river. they are people who present themselves that port of entry. i'm delighted to hear the openness to legal immigration because that has built the country. all of us are descendants of immigrants. but let's not talk about all the people are criminals and that kind of thing. they are people presenting themselves for asylum. i believe the standard is too low at the border and that is what that bill last year would have changed and would have made a huge difference. >> the asylum process is supposed to be where you are fleeing for persecution reasons or economic reasons, not personal reasons. you are automatically granted legal asylum status at that point. >> how did y

here's one of the figures i talked to my friend james lankford about it. 15% of those let in the country making asylum claims of the board end up getting asylum. in other words 85% fail. one of the big thanks a subordinate bill did was resolve to a large extent a test at the border. these are not people coming over the wall or swimming the river they are presenting themselves at ports of entry sing of a credible fear of persecution in my home country. that is being abused. i'm delighted to her openness about legal immigration. that's what's built this country. all of us here are descendents of immigrants. but, let's not talk about all of these people are criminals and that kind of thing. these are people presenting themselves for asylum. i believe the standard is too low at the border that's what the bill we voted on master change. i would have made a huge difference for quick asylum processor fling for persecution regions, not economic reasons. the lot write notes as you enter the country immediately declare yourself you say you're doing it for persecution regions are automatically gran

james lankford, who was a republican senator who negotiated the legislation, very conservative guy. you know, he got a deal that republicans had wanted for years. this is not meeting them at the 50 yard line. i mean, it's sunday, so use a football analogy. this was not meeting them at the 50 yard line. it was on the 10 yard line on our side of the field, defending the goal. i mean, that is what the legislation, you know, how it was look at. there were a lot of popular things in there for me. i represented border state. these were, you know, key components of a plan that we needed to strengthen our borders to 30. but because donald trump, it's now been delayed. kamala harris said she will sign this legislation. i think when donald trump is gone, after he loses, were going to bring that legislation back, we are going to get it to her desk in january. she's going to sign it. border patrol pay is going to come up, we are going to hire more agents. we are going to build the infrastructure we need. >> joe biden won arizona by fewer than 11,000 voice. .3%, but from the numbers perspective,

more recently, it was proposed by jim length hurt, -- james lankford, a suit -- conservative senator but rejected by the president. that is unfortunate, one thing -- she went to the border and said she would sign the legislation that did the things we talked about before and if you are going to have a lasting solution on the border, it has to be a partisan. and that is what kamala harris is proposing. >> senator, good to have you. thank you for taking time with us. senator jeff flake of arizona, we appreciate your time. governor tim walz is in saginaw, michigan making campaign stops this morning. he will attend a church -- a church service in saginaw before this afternoon, flying to the east coast for events in massachusetts and connecticut. of course, vice president harris is in georgia this morning. will be dropping in to see what she's doing there. this edition of velshi across america and the initial state of arizona continues next. i will be joined by senator mark kelly, he's been stumping for kamala harris i will also speak to the democratic candidate for the other sanity, cong

it was crafted by conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankford. i know him. he is super conservative, but he is a man of principle. wants to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on this piece of legislation. but border patrol say this is what we need in here. these are the experts. and the chamber of commerce and "the wall street journal" said pass this thing. kamala harris helped get there. 1500 new border agents. detection for drugs. doj money to speed up the adjudications on this. just what america wants. but as soon as that was getting ready to pass and tackle this, donald trump said no. told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him -- what would donald trump talk about if we actually did some of these things? and they need to be done by the legislature. you can't just do this through the executive branch. so, look we have the options to the this. donald trump had four years. he had four years to do this. and he promised you, america, how easy it would be. i'll build you a big beautiful wall and mexico will pay

. >> or border policies are the most strongest in the fairest we have seen, james lankford and 0, thell street journal, the chamber of commerce also passes legislation coming after congress authorized border agents in congress to authorize d.o.j. to speed adjudication on the asylum claims, that's what kamala harris is talking about. trey: i have three quick questions chairman. if the border was secure why did they need a set of border bill, if the border was not secure why did they wait. a half years to propose it, can they name a single american deck can still be alive even have this bill passed. >> all good questions but you're exactly right this is deliberate and intentional unpremeditated done on day one when they said number remain in mexico and were building the wall when you get to the border you will not be detained to be released. >> 10 million illegal migrants under the biden here's regime 99 on the terrorist watch list, thousands of convicted thousands of criminals have commented they lost track of 300,000 kids in fact the secure border the more crazy we know that is not th

the citizens for responsible budget that is awarded to people as conservative as mike braun and james lankford, and as liberal as sheldon whitehouse and jeanne shaheen. it doesn't go to a lot of us, but it goes to us because we are willing to have this discussion that in a little bit you will hear "demagogue," because that is the tradition. to say that the republicans will throw social security over the cliff. we can get this done. she will say i am for cutting benefits. here is what i suggest we ought to. take a serious look at the retirement age. right now if you are my age, there are people who have a lower number than this, but at 67 years of age you can get full benefits. i say, let's look 10 years out from now and start adding may be one month a year for six years, that would provide -- it recognizes the longevity of life. the other thing is we can look at raising the cap of eligible income that is taxed for fica. right now it's about one 68,000. i think we can restart and do it over the course of time. my right-wing friends say that is a tax increase. my left-wing friends say it is cutt

it was a bad bill and at the end of the day the democrats like to say republicans crafted it james lankfordhe had all the stuff that he could have said but he did i felt that there was missed opportunities but that was just me, are you surprised that these polls are so tight given the fact that it's a trump side that is communicative in their policy plans and yet she's able to garner a lot of support even with very little information with what she plans to do. >> it's amazing that most of the country in the academy on the direction so close but they are so close no one can tell you what is going to win this race today. >> final word. >> were saying the same thing and trump with a quick advantage as we moved out in the newer policies getting stronger. maria: we will leave it there robert cahaly and mark penn, thank you we'll be right back. when you're in the military you're really close with your brothers and your sisters that are in the military with you. and when you get out of the military, you kind of lose that until you find a new family. we can talk about our struggles and the things t

people understand that donald trump was the one that torpedoed the bipartisan border deal that james lankford of the most conservative senators was a cosponsor and authored it. but that will be a soft spot. what she did manage to do that i think is really good is to talk about this new agenda that they have for black men. so to talk about entrepreneurship and economic opportunity is, she will talk about specific health care needs that affect the black community more specifically and i see no reason, understand that people want to put this in the it's just identity politics and that's ridiculous. identity politics is implicit in good campaigning. when you're talking to a group that has a certain set of concerns you need to be able to address the way that their lives are, what their job looks like and family life looks like. what their medical life looks like. and on the same day as she put out the agenda for black men, she also put out the agenda for rural america. like farmers, ranchers -- >> jesse: do they get free weed too? >> jessica: it is not free weed. they will get legal weed, which is

james lankford in oklahoma, the border patrokforl agents and "the wall street journal," the chamber ofed the legislation. you have to havelegi congress to authorize 1500 border agents. you have to speed adjudications on asylum claims. that is what kamala harris is talking about. >> governor, baptiste -- >> trey: i have three quickairm questions for you chairman. if the border was secure why did they need senate border bill and if the border was not secure, why did they wait three and half years to propose it. and can they name a single american that would be alive had this bill passed? >> all good questions, but you are exactly right. this was deliberate,ght attentional, premeditated done on day one no more remain on mexico and no more building the wall.buildi when you get to the border, you will not be retained but released. 10million illegal migrants unde the biden-harris regime.n he 99 on terrorist watch list andun thousands have convicted -- i mean thousands of criminals have come in and they lost track of 300,000 kids. if that is a secure border, i guess we are all crazy than. we

james lankford, the author of the bill, a friend of mine, i spend a lot of time talking with him.t was not going to solve the border crisis. it was going to codify the border crisis. it was going to continue to allow the flood of illegal immigrants into this country that was unleashed by the border czar, kamala harris, and joe biden. i ask the listeners to understand the deception that senator mannion is making and the misrepresentations he is making about these issues. that is not how this came about and that is not how our government works. >> senator mannion, did you want a quick word? sen. mannion: there is one reason our immigration system remains broken. it was directed by donald trump to members of the house of representatives to make sure the bill never made it over because he did not want anyone to get a political win. it is that kind of politics that the people of central new york reject. it is that type of language that you continue to hear out of my opponent's mouth that is divisive, toxic, degrading, trying to tear things down. he is not the candidate of addition. he

it's an award with citizens for responsible budget, people as conservative as mike braun and james lankford and is liberal sheldon whitehouse and jeanne shaheen. it doesn't go to a lot of us but because we are willing to have this discussion. the rich tradition of being demagogue and somehow save kramer and their republicans will drive us over a cliff. we can get this done but we have to put every thing on the table. she's guinness and cutting benefits. here's what i suggest. take a serious look at the retirement age right now it takes from ih their people with a lower number than this but 67 years of age those benefits. i say let's look at 10 years out from now let's start adding to be one month a year for six years. that would provide i'd say it recognizes longevity of life. look at raising the cap of eligible income that is taxed. right now it's about -- i think we could raise that over the course of time. my friends say that's it tax increase, my left-wing friends say that would cut benefits. >> i think one of the things that i think about when i think about social security is this wido

only bill that we've seen is the one that mcconnell put together, you know, with tim lankford or james lankfordd it down because it was a disaster bill. it would is have codified everything that they had done the last three year, and is we obviously didn't want that. but, no, i -- sometimes it sounds like she doesn't know what's going on or what has really happened. he hasn't a really studied it. but i'm telling you, there's been nothing done about immigration in the last four years that the biden-harris administration even thought about stopping or trying to correct. larry: that bill that she always refers to which was an election year ploy, it wasn't trump who killed that bill. they're already a bunch of republican senators who were against that bill. if there are democratic senators who were existence that bill, probably for different -- against that bill, probably for different reasons. and that bill would have allowed roughly, i'm going to just do this in round numbers, that bill would have allowed roughly 2 million illegals coming in every year in that bill, codified, probably a bigger nu

simply we have a policy james lankford in oklahoma give have congress operated move border agents this thanks it woud actually work donald trump told us for four years mexico did not pay for. this is a real bill of experts and start to tackle the issue. want to resort to demonizing people or chew making up or crafting stories of senator vance said he did. those things were not happening in springfield. doesn't mean we can't pass a piece of legislation to strengthen our border. that's what kamala harris' talking about. shannon: that piece of legislation includes a wall you guys have been so disparaged that. the vice president has as well but i don't she really intends to move forward with that? it was negotiable through four senators. many republicans came out against it. long before president trump indicated he did not like it either but listen before we go i wish we had a full hour, went to give you a chance you called yourself a knucklehead this week, to talk about some of your misstatements. you modified your story or explained you misspoke about things involving your military rank,

that would have been in the bipartisan border bill that oklahoma conservative republican senator james lankford tried to get through last year. it it failed because the former president said, no, we're not going to i have a success or progress on immigration before the election. so this is at the root of all of this immigration discussion. i was in arizona last week. it is absolutely a critical issue. border security and critical issue, but the voters i talked to both sides actually want solutions and there is very little in the former president's over remarks that were solutions oriented to put it charitably. >> jeff zeleny. thank you so much for that update. let's expand the conversation now with republican strategist and cnn political commentator shermichael singleton and cnn political commentator and former democratic south carolina state representative bakari sellers. thank you both for being with us. bakari, i want to start with you because in light of harris releasing this opportunity agenda targeting black men, a new york times-sienna college poll released this weekend shows that trump

it was crafted by conservative senator from oklahoma james lankford. i know in the super conservative, but he's a man of principle. want to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on this piece of legislation. the border patrol say this is what we need in here. these are the experts and the chamber of commerce in the wall street journal said pass this thing. kamala harris helped get their 1500 new border agents. detection for drugs, doj money to speed up the the adjudication on this. just one america watch. but as soon as i was getting ready to pass and actually tackle this, donald trump said no told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him what would donald trump talk about if we actually did some of these things and they need to be done by the legislature, you can't just do this to the executive branch. so look, we have the options to do donald trump at 4 years get 4 years to do this and he promise you america how easy it would be. build you a big, beautiful wall and mexico will pay for it. less than 2% of tha

it was crafted by a conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankford. i know him.uper conservative but he's a man of principle and wants to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on the legislation. the border patrol said this is what we need. the chamber of commerce and "wall street journal" said passe. kamala harris helped get there. 1500 new border agents, detection for drugs, doj money to speed up the adjudications on this, just what america wants. as soon as it was getting ready to pass and tackle it, donald trump said no, told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. what would donald trump talk about if we did these things? they need to be done by the legislature. you can't just do this to the executive branch. look, we have the option to do this. donald trump had four years. he had four years to do this and he promised you, america, how easy would be. i will build you a big beautiful wall and mexico will pay for it. less than 2% of the wall got built and mexico didn't pay a dime ut here we are nine years after he came down the e

immigration, that this nation has seen, it was crafted by conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankfordknow him. democrat from republicans worked on this. the border patrol said this is what we need. these are experts, and chamber of commerce and "wall street journal" said pass it. kamala harris helped get there, 1500 new border agents, detection for drugs. just what america wants but as soon as that was ready to pass. donald trump said no. told them to vote against it, because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him, what would donald trump talk about if we did some of these. they need to be done. by the legislature, you can't just do this with executive branch, we have options, donald trump had 4 years, he had 4 years to do this, he promised you how easy it would be, i will build you a big beautiful wall, and mexico will pay for it less than 2% of that wall of the built and mexico it not pay a dime, 9 years after he came down, dehumanizing people, and telling them what he would do, as far as departing at one point, senator vance said it was so unworkable to be laugh able. that is

it was crafted by a conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankford. i know him. he's super conservative, but he's a man of principle. he wants to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on this piece of legislation, the border patrol said, this is what we need in here. these are the experts and the chamber of commerce and the wall street journal said, pass this thing, kamala harris helped get there. 1500 new border agents detection for drugs, doj money to speed up these. the adjudications on this just what america wants. but as soon as i was getting ready to pass and actually tackle this donald no, told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him what would donald trump talk about if we actually did some of these things? and they need to be done by the legislature. you can't just do this through the executive branch so look, we have the options to do this donald trump had four years. he had four years to do this. and he promised you america, how easy it would be i'll build you a big, beautiful wall and mexico will pay for it

it was crafted by a conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankford, he's super conservative, but a man of principle, wants to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on this piece of legislation. the border patrol says this is what we need, these are the experts. and the chamber of xhercommerce "the wall street journal" said pass this thing. doj money to speed up the adjudications on this, just what america wants. when i was getting ready to pass and tackle this, donald trump said no, told them to vote against it, because it gives him a campaign issue. what would donald trump talk about if we actually did somesome of these things and they need to be done by the legislature, you can't do this through the executive branch. we have the onption to do this. donald trump had four years to do this he promised you, america, how easy it would be. i'll build you a big, beautiful wall and mexico will pay for it. less than 2% of the wall got built and mexico didn't pay a dime. here we are again, nine years after he came down the escalator, dehumanizing people, and telling them what he

he named james lankford, a conservative republican, to lead the charge on the republican side.uty washington bureau chief for the associated press michael tackett, thank you for being here. >>> up next, we'll get the latest from the campaign trail. l hi. i'm damian clark. i'm here to help you understand how to get the most from medicare. if you're eligible for medicare, it's a good idea to have original medicare. it gives you coverage for doctor office visits and hospital stays. but if you want even more benefits, you can choose a medicare advantage plan like the ones offered at humana. our plans combine original medicare with extra benefits in a single, convenient plan with $0, or low monthly plan premiums. these plans could even include prescription drug coverage with $0 copays on hundreds of prescriptions. plus, there's a cap on your out-of-pocket costs. most plans include dental, vision, even hearing coverage. there are $0 copays for in-network preventive services, and much more. get the most from medicare with a humana medicare advantage plan. call today to learn more. rem

be, as you're describing that yesteryear, that different era, if you're someone like senator james lankfordwho spent months and months working on a bipartisan immigration deal, that, by the way, tilted in the favor of conservatives, a lot of progressives were not happy about that legislation. >> he had it right there. >> does the work with chris murphy, does the work with kyrsten sinema and at the end of it arrives, tom, fully formed, gives conservatives what they said they wanted for a couple of generations, donald trump makes one phone call and it's dead. so the people that actually do want to get things done and do want to improve the lives of americans, it's discouraging. >> but it proves that the republicans have become a post-policy party. they don't care about policy. going back to donny's point it's so galling when donald trump stands up and starts talking about sharks and whatever and then people say, but, you know, i still don't know which regulations kamala harris is going to roll back for more housing. as though these are somehow equivalent parts of the discussion that you have

one of which i would say drafted by one of the most conservative senators in the united states, james lankford out of oklahoma had a vipers border point drafted pretty to go. you know who tainted? my opponents isil, donald trump. he said no because they would rather run on a problem than work on a solution. we have to go to washington again to find solutions to work on solutions for must give them the resources they need. on the border. we must reform our asylum process. we must reform our legal pathways to entry into this country, i we must take serious that obligation and we can do it and will get. >> ninety seconds to discuss immigration reform. >> immigration reform. look, as a just said, it's a multifaceted issue in something that is challenging, something we know, everybody's been great at did find a problem. but as just mentioned, president trump is hell-bent on stand against the solutions. even solutions crafted and drafted by his own party. we must reform our asylum program. we know that is a large part of the large numbers we see at the border but we also must recognize the facts. he

craig and ted kennedy, not exactly like kindred spirits on policy or even now kyrsten sinema and james lankfordhn mccain and ted kennedy. every time even though it 78 or 80 votes are the united states senate conservatives did not just want to do anything to allow for a legal process to be established for the workforce we depend on in washington particularly in central washington. i do support and immigration policy that will allow us to bring people from mexico who want to live here and return to mexico. i'll do everything we can to continue to fight and getting gg appropriations for the border. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia shipped 30 seconds to respond. >> i also want to talk about certain topics of immigration we may not come back too you. i am all in favor of the dreamers, the docket kids across the board not having 18 years of age to begin citizenship yesterday. okay? to the other people that have been four years and have paid taxes. and have been reputable people i iwill give permanent residency too. but, if you come to this country to commit crime you are out. >> thank you dr. garcia

we have had solutions on the table that were drafted by republicans but both senator james lankford draftedm rather than to work to pass the solution we cannot have that we have to have real people in washington that really want solutions to these issues. i think it's clear my opponent will stay the course with the republican opposition that brings in real change in immigration system here in united states. >> caroleene how would you have voted on that act? and again but which you propose to handle what's going on at the border? >> there is no question our border crisis, and it is a national crisis is negatively impacting alabama families. i'm running to make life better for alabama families. of course we benefit from illegal immigration i welcome everyone to utilize that process. i was visiting recently with doctor patel at jackson hospital. think it is people like him who have legally immigrated and providing healthcare in communities that most need it. unfortunately members of his family and community cannot come to america and emigrate because they are being held up by a system that's t