host: admiral james loy and james lee witt, to of both. next, we will turn our attention to the death penalty and what states are due to repeal it, right after this break. >> when it comes to the secretary of state and the people around her, what i found striking is her ability to stay focused at all times as much as possible on what is happening. she does not get distracted by the details if they're not important. the details often matter, but she has an ability to stay focused on the big picture. how is what is happening in afghanistan impacting what they might be doing in the middle east? how is what is happening in the middle east and back in what they are trying to do in asia? she had a big sense of the big picture, the strategy. of course, she is surrounded by people helping her. she has staff. that allows her, and i talk about that a little bit, that allows her to stay focused on what really matters but she does not have to worry about whether lunch will be served kernot. it will just arrived. then she will have it while she is thin

director james lee wit and the former head of the transportation security administration admiral james loy an organization focusing on national disaster preparedness. will discuss efforts to abolish the death penalty. we'll take your call, e-mail, and tweet. washington journal each morning at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >>> now more from the conference on the tenth anniversary of the space shuttle accident. a look at lessons learned from a management perspective with the learn of the returned to flight operation of nasa. this is about an hour. so we had a lot of technical discussions earlier and we have more denial pieces. but what this panel talked about is sort of lessons learned, unlearned, really more are from a manager perspective. a liar -- higher level perspective. my purpose being on here. i was deputy chief of staff for sean oh kef at the time of the accident. as she said at the beginning with all of us lived the accident through our personal lens. i'll share mine. we have bryan o'connor who is former chief of the nasa safety administration. bill parsons the space shuttle program mana

and admiral james loy, a former deputy secretary of homeland security, former tsa administrator and commandant of the coast guard. welcome to both of you. you are cochairs of the protecting america.org group. james lee witt, what is it? >> guest: our main concern with admiral loy and myself and several coalition partners was the fact we're seeing events more frequent and more devastating than we've ever seen. we've seen insurance rates go so high. it is not available or affordable anymore. we're seeing less people have insurance to cover losses when there is an event. that way it costs taxpayers more money helping them to recover in these efforts, particularly these big events. we thought if we could put together a program that would make insurance more available and affordable so that more people would be covered but the important thing too is that that if an event happened they could recover much faster, the economy would recover much faster in those communities by developing a national fund as well as a state fund, then this fund would grow and build and it would create more competition in