james madison, the successor, the architect vote toad an internal improvements bill.hey thought that went beened yo the powers of the federal government down to today. when the most novel new development, the tea party movement is named after something that happened in 1773. there's a retrospective cast built into our politic, what happened today, a large number of american, this one included. believed that the somewhat promiscuous expansion of government power in recent year, raises questions about whether we still have a government of limited, dell gated and enow ra tiv powers. >> you say last year, you mean particularly now in the obama administration? >> yes. >> what do you say to that very cat goric -- >> wow, i think this retrospective cast that george will refers to is absolutely right. there's cap, holes, gulf, abysses. you read the constitution but oops, i forgot the part about slavery. you talk about women and people of color who have been distorted. relegated to the margins and all together seen as margin alia. i think the constitution is a powerful, living

but there were people like james madison. others just thought this was laughable. it was just ridiculous. c-span: well, you say that--was it madison or his wife that wanted the "hail to the chief"? >> guest: yes, that was later. c-span: and why was that? what was the... >> guest: well, let me--let me start with that. so--so they won the battle and--and they settled with mister president. you couldn't have a--a--a sparer title for that. then fast forward to the presidency of james madison. james madison was a small man. he was--people described him as sort of birdlike. always in a black suit. and m--dolly madison noticed that when the president and she arrived at various receptions around washington, that no one paid any attention to the fact the president had entered the room and this disturbed her. and so she arranged and worked with someone to have "hail to the chief" written and performed wherever there was a reception to--to which her husband was going. and so that's how "hail to the chief" came. but those--those are--they're similar, but they're also different.

and this is not some radical new idea that was just invented last week by julian assigns who was james madison who said that a popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or both but it's james madison the primary architect of our constitution the need for transparency in government and for a minimum of government secrecy is a very good idea it's a very old idea in our american political system and intellectual history and fortunately we have people like bradley manning who come along and remind us of this when we have strayed too far from this with disastrous results i might add over the past ten years how would you compare bradley manning through some of the people that over the past years have received the presidential medal of freedom including donald rumsfeld big cheney now former secretary of defense robert gates. well i'm here to say the current c. of the presidential medal of freedom is somewhat debased given all the people who have known it donald rumsfeld tony blair always the grinning and eager accomplice to t

transferred from the state department their presidential papers, george washington, thomas jefferson, james madisonmes monroe, as well as alexander hamilton and benjamin franklin, that had been collected. they were being preserved by the state department. >> there are the core of the modern manuscript division. >> amazing buildings have been billed for most the 20th-century presidents. but prior to that, the pride -- the library of congress is the largest presidential library, having in its custody 23 presidents. >> the papers range from george washington through calvin coolidge. washington papers include his diary, pocket-sized, but there are other diaries as well. christ when he became president he went on a tour of it -- >> when he became president he went on a tour of countries. he noticed that in the places he traveled the roles were not in good condition and the places to stay were not up to his standards. and he said something like these houses are just, you know, the entertainment is subpar. some 18th-century way of saying that. but the reason he gave is interesting. he said, the people who

from the state department the papers of four presidents, george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison james monroe, as well as some papers of alexander hamilton and benjamin franklin that had been collected and were basically being preserved by the state department. >> those papers of early presidents are the core of today's manuscript division. >> i think people don't realize that, they hear about the presidential library system, amazing buildings built for mostly 20th century presidents. but prior to that, the library of congress is the largest presidential library, having in its collection 23 presidents. >> the presidential papers range from george washington through calvin coolidge. washington's papers include 36 diaries, pocket sized, like a farmer would carry to make records about the weather or plans for growing certain crops. but there are other diaries as well. the place is to stay were not up to his standards. at one point he said, these houses are just, the entertain is subpar, some 18th century way of saying that. but the reason he gave for that, an interesting reason, he

continued that policy without a second thought that's why the first veto of our fourth president james madison and main author of the constitution was to kill a piece of legislation that moved the responsibility for caring and pain for the poor from the federal government to a church in d.c. that essendon believe the government should ever give money to churches for any purpose and that one of the most important jobs of the federal government was to catch those who fell through the social safety net we just need a message he said he was vetoing the bill quote because the build vests and said incorporated church and also authority to provide for the support of the poor and the education of poor children of the same carrying into effect a public and civil duty not a religious duty that a sin was in fact he goes on at some length in his veto message i encourage you to check it out you can easily google it and i really just due to a civic a civic duty it's our duty we the people through our government a public and civil civic or civil duty to care for the general welfare. and members of the democr

they were they were they were gathering money to pay for it in fact it's the first veto of the james madison administration the father of constitution the fourth president of states his first veto to us was because they started taking that money and stopped giving that money to what had rightfully to what i was a school and it's the game it's what i should have because no we're not going to have passed it but they passed it with the question so me is if we're not going to care for these kids who is the parents and if they don't get if they don't then we're going to pay for it life ain't fair we're going to pay for with you know you would you have no problem paying for prisons no but you don't want to pay for schools you have no problem paying for the product cost for foster care for kids i don't want government schools not you don't want you know i don't care you don't want schools think so you want kids going to school either i want to go to private schools ok so people screws we have public cell phones but everybody has a cell phone a cell phone isn't six seven seven thousand dollars you k

procedure but the real feelings of the founders was that they didn't want to standing army around james madison said that armies are the source of debts and taxes and all kinds of expansion by the executive and bringing the many under the domination of the few he said it was the greatest danger to liberty and of course you know the first three presidents spent all of their time trying to stay out of war so that part of. the tea party which seems to cheer on all of this empire is counter to those only that they also share firearms ownership and cite the second amendment the constitution say well well well regulated militia and a lot of them as a result of tea party activism or come to the realization that hey we'd be more secure as a nation if we have widespread firearms ownership and if somehow for our national security we are more dependent on that as a resource that doesn't cost the government anything then maintaining this ridiculous standing army that the president can just send off willingly wherever he feels like right yeah absolutely and personal ownership of firearms definitely out of f

here kevin is this letter a step on the way to impeachment well i'll tell you i think that if james madison was alive he was the author of the constitution he said the most important clause in our constitution was the article that gave the power to go to war to congress and took it away from the president so he said i was the most important i suspect that he and other founders would be calling for obama's impeachment today if they are around to do so i really think that it president obama in a time of economic crisis a deficit crisis. spending being cut and all that everything's at military what we're he's spending a billion dollars without even any congressional authorization it's the most bizarre thing of that kind of thing is allowed the law to go to war send people to send troops and kill civilians and spend a billion dollars without any kind of congressional authorization i have all i will always surprise of the calls for impeachment what have come earlier if the far right were around today where kevin thank you so much for joining us i know you got a lot of people like to excited that

this is a quote from james madison. standing military force with an hour run executive will not follows his companions to liberty. the means of defense against foreign danger have been always estimate saturnian home. for example, a number of american soldiers have died in combat. for order 55. minimum number have committed of suicide, 407. home." listen to this one. whober of american civilians died worldwide in terrorist attacks last year, eight. 8. minimum number died after beingd struck by lightning, 29. tobacco kills five and a half million people per year arounde the globe. i wish every time c-span would have one of these.ve o >> is on here, please get professor on dealer on here. >> host: we don't have to use name-calling. tm. >> i would tell you that i lay e out in the but the number of documented cases. we have seen that cases on run terrorism every two to three rnats since january of 2009. i can argue the facts more than i can lay them out for you. you have to decide whether that's ever blonder not if. there is

most of y'all will recall james madison was considered to be the founder of our constitution, the most active member of our constitutional convention, the one whose notes told us what went on, the one who went to the convention with an outline, a framework for the structure of government that eventually became our constitution. so he testified, mr. harrison did, that it was an unconstitutional -- quote -- "attempt by congress to exercise directly through legislation the appointments power." close quote. article 2, section 2, clause 2 of the constitution, the appointments clause -- it's in the constitution -- states that the president -- quote -- "shall nominate and by and with the advice and consent of the senate shall appoint ambassadors and other public ministers and councils, judges of the supreme court and all other officers of the united states whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for and which shall be established by law." close quote. in the case of buckley vs. vallejo, the supreme court held that -- quote -- "any appointee exercising significant authority pursua

i come from a district where james madison first represented us in virginia, so it's clear that evene. what i do think, though, is most americans then and now believe that the country should pay its bills just as they're expected to do at home. and with that, i believe that we can come together, we can find ways to cut spending, to get our fiscal house in order so we can begin to grow the economy begin and people can get back to work. this meeting is obviously between party leaders. is there any concern, because we've seen a little bit of a shift in the republican party, as to whether or not you'll be able to sell this final compromise, thinking confidently here, to the rest of your party? >> listen, i don't think any of us relish the notion that somehow we've been sent here to do just this. we relish the notion that this is a huge privilege to represent the people of our districts and what they're expecting is for us to begin to get the fiscal house in order here in washington. i do think that there will be a spirit of trying to get results here so that the people that elect us can

james madison, in a letter to thomas jefferson, stated, "the constitution's opposes what the historynts demonstrates, the executive is the one most interested in war and most prone to it. it is accordingly --." clearly there are circumstances under which the president might be justified in deploying military force without authorization. as senator webb has pointed out, none of the reasons apply to the libyan case. our country was not attacked or threatened with an attack. we were not obligated under a treaty to defend the libyan people. we were not rescuing americans or launching a onetime punitive retaliation. nor did the operation requires surprise. it would have made public debate impractical. president obama made a deliberate decision not to seek congressional authorization either before he commenced or during the last three months. this was a fundamental failure of leadership that placed expedience above constitutional responsibility. some will say that president obama is not the first president to employ a american forces overseas in controversial circumstances without authoriz

george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison, and james monroe.s well as the papers of alexander hamilton and benjamin franklin. they were being preserved by the state department. >> those papers are the core of today's manuscript division. >> a lot of people just do not realize about the presidential library system. prior to that, the library of congress is the largest presidential library. >> the presidential papers range from george washington through calvin coolidge. washington's papers include 36 diaries, pocket-sized like a farmer would carry to make records about the weather. there are other diaries as well. >> he became president and he went on a series of tours of the country. he noticed that in the places where he traveled, the roads were not in good condition. the places to stay were not up to his standards. at one point, he said something like, these houses are -- the entertainment is very subpar. the reason he gave for that is very interesting. he said the people who travel along the roads are people who are moving from one place to a

during the late 18th century, george washington, thomas jefferson, and james madison shared the dream of a national botanic garden and were instrumental on establishing one on the national mall in 1820. now in continuous operation and opened to the public since 1850, the garden moved to its present location in 1933, a complex located along the north and south side of independence avenue bordered by first street and third street. the garden includes the conservatory, the national garden which opened in 2006, the bartholi park created in 1932. a plant production, and support facility opened in anacostia in 1933, includes greenhouses, bays, and maintenance shops. this is a very important thing to the american people when they come here from all over the country, they want to go see the garden, botanical gardens, and i just feel that we have to figure out a way to fund this. and to take care of the facility. this was a dream of the founders of this republic. and i think we should honor that dream and we should defeat both of these amendments and do the work that's necessary to keep it in

transfer from the state department the papers of presidents -- george washington, thomas jefferson, james madisond james monroe. as well as the papers of alexander hamilton and benjamin franklin. they were being preserved by the state department. >> those papers are the core of today's manuscript division. >> a lot of people just do not realize about the presidential library system. they are amazing bill funds -- buildings built for 20th-century presidents. prior to that, the library of congress is the largest presidential library. we have 23 presidents. >> the presidential papers range from george washington through calvin coolidge. washington's papers include 36 diaries, pocket-sized like a farmer would carry to make records about the weather. there are other diaries as well. >> he became president and he went on a series of tours of the country. this is a tour for the southern states. he noticed that in the places where he traveled, the roads were not in good condition. the places to stay were not up to his standards. at one point, he said something like, the entertainment is very subpar. the

they were quoting an old -- it was james madison's of the talks like that in the old days but not even one-tenth in order to build a church. the establishment clause was the taxing power in that week. but the supreme court has limited the possible extent of that opinion because the court has said for many decades we don't want anybody and his brother to be able to challenge any act on constitutionality, the personality, and we realize if the government does tax me to support a church it doesn't affect my tax bill. it's the government taxes, the government spends. we know there's no relationship between the two. after all we are in deficit of multi trillions but let's say this instant all of our debt was gone, it wouldn't change our taxes at all because congress had to pass a special bill for that. so said for example conagra's can give property in this case the executive branch giving property to a religious organization, some protestant church because that was distributed pursuant to the property clause, not the taxing and spending calls. in the school case the court said that the cre

james madison explained why in this passage in a letter to hamilton. he said in no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found than in the clause which confines the question of war or peace to the legislature and not to the executive department. the trust and the temptation would be too great for any one man. war is, in fact, the true nurse of executiving a ran diesment. in a rar of physical forces to be created and it is the executive will which is to direct it. in war, the public treasure is to be unlocked and it's the executive hand which is to defense them. in war, the honors are to be multiplied and it is executive of patronage which they are to be enjoyed. those who are to conduct a war cannot in the nature of things be proper or safe judges whether a war ought to be commenced, continued, or concluded, unquote. the president has tried to justify this act in a variety of ways. that bombing another country is not really an act of war. that there wasn't time to consult congress, though more than enough time to consult the united nations secu

they're quoting an old james madison, even one pence in order to build a church. the establishment clause limits the taxing power in that way, but the supreme court has limited the possible extent of that opinion because the court has said for many decades that we don't want everybody and his brother to be able to challenge any constitutional -- any act on constitutionality. they have to be personally heard, personal standing. we realize in the government does tax me to support a church it doesn't affect my tax bill. that is the government taxes, the government spends. we know there's no relationship between the two. after all, we're in deficit some trillion dollars, multitrillions. let's think of it this way. this instant all of our debt was gone. it wouldn't change our taxes at all because congress has to pass a special bill for that. so, of course, they said, for example, that congress can give property to the -- this case it was the executive branch giving property to a religious organization some protestant church because that was distributed pursuant to the

a special exception in a case you cannot tax me even one farthering, they were quoting an old james madison but they talked like that. not even one pence in order to build a church. the establishment clause limits the taxing power in that way. but the supreme court has limited the possible extent of that opinion because the court has said for many decades that we don't want everybody and his brother to be able to challenge any constitutional -- any act on constitutionality. they've got to be personally hurt, personal standing. and we realize that if the government does tax me it doesn't affect my tax bill. that is the government taxes, the government spends. we know there's no relationship between the two. after all, we are in deficit some trillion or multitrillions. but let's say this instant all of our debt was gone. it wouldn't change our taxes at all. because congress would have to pass a special bill for that. the courts limited this. they said for example that congress can give property or to the -- this case it was the executive branch giving property to a religious organization some

james madison in a 19 -- rather, a 1797 letter to thomas jefferson stated -- and i quote -- "the constitution supposes what the history of all governments demonstrate, that the executive is the branch of power most interested in war and most prone to it. it has, accordingly, with studied care vested the question of war in the legislature." clearly -- that's the end of the quote from madison. clearly there are circumstances under which a president might be justified in employing military force without congressional authorization. but as senator jim webb has pointed out systematically, none of the reasons apply to the libyan case. our country was not attacked or threatened with an attack. we weren't obligated under a treaty to defend the libyan people. we were not rescuing americans or launching a one-time punitive retaliation, nor did the operation require surprise that would have made a public debate impractical. in this case, president obama made a deliberate decision not to seek congressional authorization of his action either before he commenced nor during the last three months. this was a

. >>> a man wanted for murder in south dakota, james mcvay his name, part of a plan to assassinate president obama. police tracked down mcvay in madisonrested him yesterday. they say mcvay confessed not only to stabbing a woman but to a crime he hoped to commit. he allegedly wanted to kill the president, quote, at the golf range. >> well, a new jersey man arrested and charged with stealing a $200,000 picasso sketch from a san francisco art gallery. mark lugo, there he is walking with it under his arm, caught on a restaurant surveillance camera, mark lugo, 30-year-old restaurant manager, captured after the driver of the cab he used to get away, led police to his hotel. the picasso was recovered undamaged. >>> derek jeter closing in on a magic number, hit a double and now two hits away from number 3,000. he should get it this weekend at home in the bronx. no yankee has ever reached that milestone, not babe ruth, not lou gehrig, not lou dimaggio. he would be the 28th player in history to join the 3,000 hit club. >> that's amazing. quite a milestone. >>> speaking of milestones, today is it, the shuttle program, the final launch, ali velly