pfs also being directed by james marsh, and he directed "man on wire" which is one of my favorite filmsagain, james other soof subvert things and i thought the idea of that subject matter. i hunted it down in the way you do any job interview. you try to persuade people you're formidably confident you know exactly what you're doing. >> rose: is this true? you came in meeting him at a bar somewhere our pub is london, so you ordered a beer and he ordered coffee, any were like oh, head. >> what proceeds to happen is he about five coffees. and somewhere along the way it happened. >> it wassed, that was chemistry. >> yeah. >> rose: congratulations. >> thank you. >> rose: it's a remarkable achievement. >> thank you so much. >> rose: and whatever went into the performance, it is so clear, anyone who has been even close cud hawk, but even if you haven't, you know you're watchingwatching in some sense that it's not just walking in front of a camera and performing, that you had to have thought deeply and long and to capture this man who is a fascinating human being. i thank you for that and i than